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post #21 of 41 (permalink) Old 11-23-2009, 03:29 PM
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Really? Because that was actually a pretty good war. I apologize that no every fight in MMA ends in devastating knockout
I agree it was a pretty good fight, not the best but still pretty entertaining.
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post #22 of 41 (permalink) Old 11-23-2009, 03:36 PM
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I really think it depends on how you score the first round.

Round Two - it was clearly tito 10-9.
Round Three - clearly forrest but i have a difficult time scoring it 10-8. Like many have said, he didn't really hurt tito, or score a knockdown. so i gave that 10-9 forrest.

Round One - I actually scored this round for tito. But I think I gave that takedown more credit than it should. The standup forrest was definitely winning but it was still competitive. Forrest landed cleaner strikes and more frequently. But Tito landed a few shots of his own too. But like I said, the tipping scale for me was the take down by tito. He also landed a few nice elbows on forrest. Although forrest did get up afterwards, I don't think getting up wins you points, but it prevents you from losing more points. I'd probably pull a jordan breen and give this round a 10-10 round but if i had to, i'd give it to tito for the takedown and GnP.

So really it depends on how much value you gave to tito's takedown and GnP.

On a side note, I really don't know how that fight could have been 30-27. I just don't think tito lost 10-8 in the final round. To me, a 10-8 round only happens if one fighter was so dominated that he was very closed to being finished and he had no offensive threat. Although tito had no offensive threat, he wasn't even close to being finished.
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Call me crazy, but I had it scored 30-26 in favour of Griffin. With the first two rounds being 10-9 and the last round being 10-8.
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when do you guys consider someone hurt? when his eye is hanging out of it's socket or an arm has been ripped off? tito got his ass handed to him. had it been a 5 rounder, he may have had a broken leg with all the kicks he was taking. it wasn't only cause he was gassed that he wasn't fighting back in round 3, it was cause he got an ass kicking. as far as judging, it will always be like this as long as you have people involved. look at all the different opinions here. i hate to break it to you, but all that bullshit that judges know more than us is just that, bullshit. they do the best the best they can and will never satisfy everyone.
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It could have been a draw very easily, but I don't think Tito did enough to win.
Very easily? What exactly did Tito do to win the first round? Had a takedown, landed a few strikes from top, all of this lasting about one minute. The other 4 was a lopsided MMA bout in Forrest's favor on the feet.

And as for Tito...I can't believe people wanted this guy to come back so desperately. He's nothing but a headache with this bullshit.

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Whilst watching it, haven't had time to watch it again, but I had it;
Ortiz Forest
1 10 - 9
2 10 - 9
3 8 - 10
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28 - 28


But there was one round I think could of went either way but can't remember which one, might have been round 2. I really do't see where the 30-27 comes from though.
I had it like that as well

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Very easily? What exactly did Tito do to win the first round? Had a takedown, landed a few strikes from top, all of this lasting about one minute. The other 4 was a lopsided MMA bout in Forrest's favor on the feet.

And as for Tito...I can't believe people wanted this guy to come back so desperately. He's nothing but a headache with this bullshit.
I could ask you what Forrest did to win the first round? Throw a few strikes? You can't generalize like that it was a very close round.

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I had it 29-28 for Griffin too, but I can understand the 29-28 for Griffin.

The first round was very close, in that case I don't give the round to anyone. 10-10
The second was clearly Tito's, but not dominant. 10-9 Tito.
The third one, while Griffin didn't knock Tito down, he picked him apart, and the worst thing and what makes me give it 10-8 for Griffin, it's that Tito did NOTHING at all in that round. He stayed there waiting to be dismantled. He threw just a few strikes, about 5, and a half-assed attempt of takedown.

So:

1st: 10-10 (could go either way)
2nd: 9-10 Tito, no way of giving it to Forrest.
3rd: 10-8 Griffin. A 10-9 is also a good choice.

Total: 29-28 Griffin
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the fight wasnt even close i dont see why people are calling this one bad lay and pray and un effective gnp shouldnt count for much and forest got up so fast from the take downs and tit was tooled on the feet easy win for forest easy

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the fight wasnt even close i dont see why people are calling this one bad lay and pray and un effective gnp shouldnt count for much and forest got up so fast from the take downs and tit was tooled on the feet easy win for forest easy

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