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post #11 of 30 (permalink) Old 11-23-2009, 08:52 PM
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he is ranked in every "legitimate" poll ive ever seen, but i guess you agree with me that these rankings are a joke??

I honestly dont see JDS stopping the takedowns and i dont see him hitting Cain any harder or cleaner then Kongo did. I think it's a great matchup for Cain and i would def be entertained and excited to see it.
Heavyweight Rankings (206 to 265 lbs.)
1. Fedor Emelianenko (30-1, 1 No Contest)
2. Brock Lesnar (4-1)
3. Frank Mir (12-4)
4. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (32-5-1, 1 No Contest)
5. Shane Carwin (11-0)
6. Brett Rogers (10-0)
7. Randy Couture (16-10)
8. Alistair Overeem (29-11, 1 No Contest)
9. Junior dos Santos (9-1)
10. Fabricio Werdum (12-4-1)

This was as of last month. I agree completely with the rankings except for Randy and Carwin. They need to be bumped to the back for sure.

Notice how JDS is ranked yet no one is talking about him getting a shot? I'm with Halebop, I don't mind Valesquez but he's no JDS.
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I want to see JDS vs Cain.

That would be interesting and tell a lot about both fighters, plus would give you a clear number one contender down the line.



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Im a big fan. I love the pace that this guy fights at. He has knocked off two pretty good heavyweights. Im ready to see him face a legit top ten opponent. I think his record is more impressive then Carwins now that he has a win over Rothwell and I hope he and Carwin fight for the interim belt. I dont know if there are any other heavyweights in the UFC that are gonna be able to keep pace with this guy for five rounds. If he is fighting for a title, then his opponent had better do his best to finish him within the first two and a half rounds, because he ate some huge shots from Kongo and still went a hundred and ten miles an hour for a full three rounds. I was seriously impressed with him in the Rothwell fight, he was throwing a 270-280lb man around like a ragdoll (im pretty sure that Rothwell makes a decent cut to get to 265).
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Meh, don't really care too much about him. I do like him and enjoy watching him fight, but I don't love him or anything. He also beat up my buddy Brad Morris, not cool.
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Heavyweight Rankings (206 to 265 lbs.)
1. Fedor Emelianenko (30-1, 1 No Contest)
2. Brock Lesnar (4-1)
3. Frank Mir (12-4)
4. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (32-5-1, 1 No Contest)
5. Shane Carwin (11-0)
6. Brett Rogers (10-0)
7. Randy Couture (16-10)
8. Alistair Overeem (29-11, 1 No Contest)
9. Junior dos Santos (9-1)
10. Fabricio Werdum (12-4-1)
So with Randy now back at 205, would you put someone other than Velasquez at number 10?



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Heavyweight Rankings (206 to 265 lbs.)
1. Fedor Emelianenko (30-1, 1 No Contest)
2. Brock Lesnar (4-1)
3. Frank Mir (12-4)
4. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (32-5-1, 1 No Contest)
5. Shane Carwin (11-0)
6. Brett Rogers (10-0)
7. Randy Couture (16-10)
8. Alistair Overeem (29-11, 1 No Contest)
9. Junior dos Santos (9-1)
10. Fabricio Werdum (12-4-1)

This was as of last month. I agree completely with the rankings except for Randy and Carwin. They need to be bumped to the back for sure.

Notice how JDS is ranked yet no one is talking about him getting a shot? I'm with Halebop, I don't mind Valesquez but he's no JDS.
new fight mag rankings, mmaweekly a site i have seen you mention a few times has Cain as the number 3 HW. While some other sites have him around 7th-9th, but he is ranked top 10 by every site ive checked and above JDS (deservingly imo).

1. Fedor Emelianenko 7.624 7.624 2. Brock Lesnar 6.617 6.617 3. Cain Velasquez 6.036 6.036 4. Josh Barnett 6.007 6.402 5. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira 5.841 6.880 6. Jeff Monson 5.712 5.712 7. Brett Rogers 5.500 5.500 8. Junior dos Santos 5.481 5.481 9. Alistair Overeem 5.460 6.041 10. Fabricio Werdum
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I don't much care for Cain either, but I like him a lot more than I like Carwin. Maybe because I've seen him do more than Carwin? Idk.

Either way, I feel like we need some more HW's in the UFC. I'm not feeling a lot of these guys.



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I tend to cheer against wrestlers who take people down and seem to have no ability to finish. In my experience this has been Cain's bread and butter. Can't wait to see Nog submit him.
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Im a big fan. I love the pace that this guy fights at. He has knocked off two pretty good heavyweights. Im ready to see him face a legit top ten opponent. I think his record is more impressive then Carwins now that he has a win over Rothwell and I hope he and Carwin fight for the interim belt. I dont know if there are any other heavyweights in the UFC that are gonna be able to keep pace with this guy for five rounds. If he is fighting for a title, then his opponent had better do his best to finish him within the first two and a half rounds, because he ate some huge shots from Kongo and still went a hundred and ten miles an hour for a full three rounds. I was seriously impressed with him in the Rothwell fight, he was throwing a 270-280lb man around like a ragdoll (im pretty sure that Rothwell makes a decent cut to get to 265).
He (cain) did a great job in that fight, but he definitely did not thrown anyone around like a ragdoll. Put down the kool aid.

He actually had a hard time taking Ben down. He was grabbing onto one leg and Ben essentially fell down. He never threw him around. What fight were you watcin
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He (cain) did a great job in that fight, but he definitely did not thrown anyone around like a ragdoll. Put down the kool aid.

He actually had a hard time taking Ben down. He was grabbing onto one leg and Ben essentially fell down. He never threw him around. What fight were you watcin
Ummmm... grabbing your leg grabbed before you fall down is still a take down isn't it? Cain took down Ben with every attempt. Just because it's less flashy than a thunderous double leg, it's still great technique.
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