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Old 11-29-2009, 04:09 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Man, I wish Fedor would just sign with the UFC. I want to see how Dana talks about him then.
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Old 11-29-2009, 06:44 AM   #42 (permalink)
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I think both parties are full of it. To suggest Brock go to Russia and fight Fedor for free is just as stupid. No way these guys are going to fight for free. Just a lot of meaningless posturing.
Why is this stupid? Is it all about $$$$$ with the UFC or is it about the sport? Why must all MMA events be in America why cant the rest of the world showcase an event in their country? Fedor and M1 has been pushing hard to have several fights in Russia where the majority of their fan base would be. There is nothing wrong with Americans travelling to other countries and fighting fighters from those countries. Maybe the Americans are simply scared to loose the home advantage.

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Agreed. M-1 is sitting comfortably. The Fedor bit just gets them some leverage against the UFC.

Plus, MMA is an exciting and brash sport. Getting upset about his language but not being bothered by two guys trying to knock the poo outta each other... Seems like a priority thing to me...


Exactly, MMA is a sport and a growing one at that. These organisations no matter their size must act accordingly, they are afterall representative of their sport.

I think this is where East and West diverge. Dana and the UFC wants to showcase MMA like WWE. M1 wants to have MMA ran like a proper sport i.e. global, inclusive, and professional.

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I agree totally with Dana white.and Who gives a shit if he talks like one of the dudes and uses "Swear words".He's not the ******* pope for christs sake.
You cant say "your mom is a wh0re and your a ***g0t" to anyone. People do take offense at this and most do not like being lied and being offended. This is not how NORMAL people do business. There must be a way UFC can shut Dana's mouth off else M1 should just sue the ba5tard for slander. Just shut DW's mouth, its starting to get annoying.


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What? How is Dana White scared? Dana stated he was going to call them out on their bluff.
So have they brought out Brock Lesnar and flown him to Russia? Dana hasnt called the bluff because hes never made his move yet.

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Lesnar is extremely dominating, and the UFC HW Champion. Lesnar has a better speed/size combination than anyone Fedor has faced previously.

I would pay $100 to see this fight, but as everyone else has said, it's not going to happen, especially as a free fight.
The same exact hype and promises was generated when Fedor fought the other ex UFC champions. Look what happened to them? These top athletes should should seek Fedor, the number one should not look for challenges but should wait for fighters of note to seek him.

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Man, I wish Fedor would just sign with the UFC. I want to see how Dana talks about him then.
No doubt in a very possitive light. Anyone who signs for the UFC suddenly becomes a good fighter. Any good fighters who signs for the enemy imediately becomes a cr@p one, no matter how they fought in their previous fights.
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Why is this stupid? Is it all about $$$$$ with the UFC or is it about the sport? Why must all MMA events be in America why cant the rest of the world showcase an event in their country? Fedor and M1 has been pushing hard to have several fights in Russia where the majority of their fan base would be. There is nothing wrong with Americans travelling to other countries and fighting fighters from those countries. Maybe the Americans are simply scared to loose the home advantage.
But the UFC already went to Germany, England.. and now very soon they will go to OZ, Canada and hopefully also to Japan in the next years.
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But the UFC already went to Germany, England.. and now very soon they will go to OZ, Canada and hopefully also to Japan in the next years.
For a supposed large organisations they dont really have a large footprint do they?

M1 on the other hand has co promoted on allot more countries.

So im asking this again, why cant the UFC send Brock a two way plane ride to Russia, like theyve let MMA fans to believe? The offer from M1 still stands. Its now the UFC's move.
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Well first of all this Sport had to improve in one Country. The UFC just became big in the USA, you have to start small and until you can take over the World^^
This Sport is still at the early stage remember that!

And i don't wanna comment on that M-1 offer because it's rubish^^
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Old 11-29-2009, 07:33 AM   #46 (permalink)
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Well first of all this Sport had to improve in one Country. The UFC just became big in the USA, you have to start small and until you can take over the World^^
This Sport is still at the early stage remember that!

And i don't wanna comment on that M-1 offer because it's rubish^^
What do you think M1 is doing with MMA in Russia, its now huge in Russia. With less total population than America it still managed to pull in over 6 million viewers for Fedors last fight..................at 4am in the morning. Fedor has powerful fans including Russia's political elite (imagine Obama attending Brocks fights thjis is how popular Fedor is).

I wonder why most Americans think their country is the most important, how the rest of the world dosnt matter. Many Americans are so insular that they cant even point out the location of Iraq on a map.

America and UFC must learn how to play with people/countries and other organisations from around the globe.
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For a supposed large organisations they dont really have a large footprint do they?

M1 on the other hand has co promoted on allot more countries.

So im asking this again, why cant the UFC send Brock a two way plane ride to Russia, like theyve let MMA fans to believe? The offer from M1 still stands. Its now the UFC's move.
What other countries has M-1 promoted in other than Russia, Japan and America?

The UFC now regularly promotes in the UK and Canada. They travel all over the states, they're going to Australia soon. They've been to Germany and Japan too...

Also, they can't put Brock on a plane to Russia because he's just had surgery for a life threatening illness and is currently recuperating.

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What do you think M1 is doing with MMA in Russia, its now huge in Russia. With less total population than America it still managed to pull in over 6 million viewers for Fedors last fight..................at 4am in the morning. Fedor has powerful fans including Russia's political elite (imagine Obama attending Brocks fights thjis is how popular Fedor is).

I wonder why most Americans think their country is the most important, how the rest of the world dosnt matter. Many Americans are so insular that they cant even point out the location of Iraq on a map.

America and UFC must learn how to play with people/countries and other organisations from around the globe.
It has nothing to do with M-1 and everything to do with Fedor. Fedor has been champion in SAMBO for God knows how long and SAMBO is like baseball to them. Fedor is one of the biggest sports stars in Russia, he carried the Olympic Torch for christ sake. Fedor fighting in MMA is akin to Michael Jordan, A.Rod or Tom Brady fighting MMA here in the states. He's a national hero over there man, it's got nothing to do with "what M-1 has done for MMA in Russia."

American's think their country is most important for the same reason almost every other person in every other country believes their country is most important, they live there and they support it. It's nothing to do with blind ignorance and everything to do with keeping ourselves afloat and defending our home. I'm sorry dude, but you come across very ignorant when you throw around statements like that. So what if Some American's can't find Iraq on a map, you'd be hard pressed to find an Iraqi who can point out where Colorado is on a map too.
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Dana is just pissed he does not have the best heavyweight in the world. Let's see how Brock can match up against Nog first.
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Man, I wish Fedor would just sign with the UFC. I want to see how Dana talks about him then.
Not sure if there would be a lot of talking with the kind of suction dana would be applying to fedor's genitalia.
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if m1 is so big and popular why can they only put on real international quality shows by co-promoting?? Maybe because they arent nearly as big and as popular as ppl are saying.... i've watched the lame m1 world challenge stuff on HDnet... poor production to poor commentating to mostly poor fighters.... = a crappy event (altho there's a couple fighters there i enjoy like Karl "Psycho" Amoussou).

They simply cant put on big shows that will get millions of viewers or hundreds of thousands of PPV buyers.... they just arent that profitable which is why they try to leech of companies that are.

As for this fighting for free.... Brock seems like the kinda guy that would fight for free if you insult him at a bar in backwoods Minnesota.

Fedor seems like the kind of guy who would fight for free if it was organized and properly reffed.

Ppl believing M1 need to give their heads a shake tho.... they wont let Fedor fight for any company unless you give them half, but they are gonna let the biggest fight ever go for free?? How unlikely is that?? They need the $$.... UFC doesnt... what does the UFC really have to lose?? Do you really think the UFC goes broke if Brock lost a fight to Fedor?? M1 is the only company with something to lose.

Chuck went to Japan and lost and the average MMA fan doesnt know/care. It didnt change his popularity then or now and nobody cares or mentions it now. If Brock lost, im sure some fans would be shocked from the USA, but they would get over it and the demand for Fedor would increase 10x and the pressure would once again be on The Last Emperors management to get a deal done.....

everybody who acts like Fedor is in the right needs to ask themselves this.... why is he the only fighter that deserves so many special concessions?? Where do you draw the line?? What will guys who already are a bigger draw $ wise then Fedor want in the future?? What happens when/if Fedor loses?? Is he still worth unprecended $ and 50% promotion?? Will somebody else step up and ask for the same deal (Anderson, GSP or Brock for example)??

This free fight wont happen, Dana should call them out tho, he has NOTHING to lose, UFC is becoming engrained in American popular culture (it already is here in Canada, it's a BIG deal) and one Brock loss isnt going to change that.

I know for some of the Fedor fans it's bigger then Fedor vs Brock.... it's Fedor vs the UFC, Fedor vs America.... you want Russia to finally win?? haha, sorry, you lose again ;P you want somehow magically for Fedor to beat Brock and it to somehow bring down the UFC.... again....


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