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post #21 of 47 (permalink) Old 11-29-2009, 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by KryOnicle View Post
Oooh it'll be a hard hard night for Forrest if he takes Nog. He should rematch Jardine, and Nog should fight the winner of Rashad vs Silva (which he'll win) which could potentially (i'll route against Machida if this is the case) set up Nog vs Shogun 2.

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Except I have no interest in Nog vs Shogun 2 for some reason. For a heavy handed brutality fest, I'd definitely like to see Nog vs Vitor at 195lbs. Maybe even just as an exhibition match or something.

For real matches, agree 100% with winner of Rashad/Silva.
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post #22 of 47 (permalink) Old 11-29-2009, 11:46 PM
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I think Forrest would get put to sleep early in this fight. He doesnt have that great of stand up and gets sucked into exchanging to easily with heavy handed strikers (Silva, Rashad, Rampage, Jardine) and he doenst have much power in his hands for a top lhw. I also think Lil Nog would have a giant advantage on the ground.
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post #23 of 47 (permalink) Old 11-30-2009, 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by jcc78 View Post
I dont think many people realize that lil nog beat shogun standing in there fight.Lil nog can actually KO people unlike forrest.If forrest tries to stand he'll get knocked out, if he tries to wrestling his only chance is lay and pray because he can easily get caught in a submission.
Idk about "easily;" Forrest Griffin has never been submitted in his MMA career, and he trains with some top level grapplers.

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post #24 of 47 (permalink) Old 11-30-2009, 01:27 AM
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I just can't see Forrest ever beating a top10 fighter again. People have realized that he isn't a threat to finish anyone with a KO and can just go in swinging.
Thats kind of a silly statement, I am not forrest fan, but to say that he will never beat another top 10 fighter is just stupid...
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post #25 of 47 (permalink) Old 11-30-2009, 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by leifdawg View Post
I just can't see Forrest ever beating a top10 fighter again. People have realized that he isn't a threat to finish anyone with a KO and can just go in swinging.
Its going to be a struggle just based on the fact that Forrest doesn't hit hard. Since hes been in the UFC, he hasn't rocked anyone with a punch. Hes a hard worker and a good fighter, but there are so many heavy handed guys at LHW now.

A fight against Nog would be very exciting, but I think its too early for the UFC to risk Forrest getting KO'd again.

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post #26 of 47 (permalink) Old 11-30-2009, 02:36 AM
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I agree that this is not a good match up for Griffin as too with I think the best fight would be Jardine/Griffin 2. Of course Nog would say that this would be a good fight, he's a better striker and better at subs. I don't think it would be a cake walk like some others do, but in the end I think Nog gets the win. Lil Nog should get the winner of Evans vs. Silva while everyone in the LHW waits for the Rua vs. Machida rematch.

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post #27 of 47 (permalink) Old 11-30-2009, 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by neoseeker View Post
Another first round KO for Nogueira.
agree, i can't believe some of you would even pick forrest to win this fight... seriously.

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post #28 of 47 (permalink) Old 11-30-2009, 05:31 AM
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agree, i can't believe some of you would even pick forrest to win this fight... seriously.
Likewise. I love Forrest and all, but wow. He has size. That's about all. He lacks power, has okay stand up for the current divisions heights and a weak chin.

Strong stand up - Big Power - Strong Chin > Forrest.

If the fight goes to the ground, sure he may be able to survive getting subbed as he does have a very good defensive ground game, but against Nogs jits even that's questionable.

Nog isn't the kind of fighter that will let Forrest stay on the outside and pepper him for 3 rounds. And that, would be the only viable way I see Forrest winning against the upper echelon of LHWs.

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Like most people here, I think Lil Nog would end the fight. He is better on the feet and on the ground, but this would be over after Lil Nog lands a big right hand and the referee has to step in.

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If I can remember correctly this exact same type of discussion was going on when the Shogun/Forrest and Rampage/Forrest fights were seems like whenever he is doubted in his ability to when a fight he usually wins it. He wins fights he shouldnt and loses fights he should win, very weird but also very true...I was with all of you talking about how I thought Shogun would destroy Forrest...but more towards the Rampage fight I didnt doubt him because he always steps up. Is Forrest a different fighter now? maybe..he has some more losses and doesnt look as good as he once did, but he never really was a fighter you looked at and said "wow he has skill" he has always been and always will be a fighter people look at and say "he has guts, dont ever count him out of a fight." All i am saying is that he shouldnt be completely disregarded to win a fight like this. He wouldnt be the favorite for obvious reasons but I wont count him out ever again and really he could win this fight.
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