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Old 11-30-2009, 01:28 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Ahhh, Alizio, did the religious "nut" hurt your feelings?? So sorry.
Are you bieng condescending? Just kidding. I was wondering if you knew what religion Fedor practices? I never knew he was a religious man. Also i got to ask you a question and its not to be a smartass cause im not very smart but I can be a real ass (true humor) In your beliefs do you think God approves of fighting?. I mean 2 guys going into a cage to beat the living *** out of each other for money. Im really just curious, when I ask my believer friends they say No.
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Old 11-30-2009, 01:42 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Firstly, i think you misinterpreted me; i never said that fedor may change if he went to the ufc, i said that the ufc may -want- him to change, and thus he would not like it > thus one of the many reasons for picking SF over UFC.

And in response to your second question.... abso-*******-lutely. I can't believe i forgot to point that out myself. My neighbour is a respectable russian, and the in-your-face, hardball attitude of dana would *NOT* fly well at all with him. So yeah, i see what you're saying and agree completely on that one.
Yeah, I see what you mean. If Fedor would have picked the UFC, I could imagine them making one of those little pre-fight movies with him wearing fur and riding a horse-drawn sleigh in Russia, to better portray his fighting nickname lol. I could totally see them milking his persona to draw people in and could see why he would not like that.
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Old 11-30-2009, 01:58 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Man all of this talk about Ovechkin lol. Ovechkin is more popular beacuse Hockey has been around in the mainstream a lot longer than MMA. And he is arguably the best in his sport.

Fedor is arguably the best fighter in MMA. But MMA is not as well known as hockey is.

I'm not sure about Fedor picking freedom because it seems to me like M-1 is making all of his decisions for him. Maybe it's just me, but that isn't my idea of freedom.

I could just be misunderstanding everything though. But it does seem like we here everything from M-1 Global, and not much from Fedor.
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when dana does stuff people are quick to put it down to the fact that he's operating in the intrests of the UFC and his 10% share in ufc. Given that most ppl think feodor owns at least 10% of M1 why is it such a big deal that fedor would want to act in M1's iintrests.

Its becoming apparent that the UFC's business model is outdated and may work well for the WWE butnot for a competitive sport. The M1 approach seems similar to boxing, a model i would much rather see. That way we would see super fights like silva v liddell(prime) couture v fedor etc etc

Then we have UFC fanboys ( whove taken over from the pride purists)and bash fedor for protecting his own intrests.
If Bob Aram and Mayweather can negotiate pacquiao v maymeather (two guys who hate each other) Then why couldnt dana reach a deal with fedor instead of littering the internet and airways with obsceneties.
Wait, you want to see the UFC become more like the way boxing is run?

Have you been following boxing over the last few years?
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Ahhh, Alizio, did the religious "nut" hurt your feelings?? So sorry.
Not a very good contribution from someone getting on others for not staying on topic.

In regards to the boxing talk, I think that the UFC is in much better shape then boxing. It is gaining new fans at a very rapid pace while boxing is losing steam. I personally would much rather have a couple of people choosing fights as opposed to countless promoters who only care how good the split is gonna be.
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This can all be summed up by the "it's a job" sentiment. We, as fans, look at MMA as a sport. We love the fighters, talk about them, critique them, imagine matchup and rematches and "what ifs". But like Fedor said, he just wants to fight. His humility and intense piety makes him immune to the lure of Dana's money. He doesn't care if he's champ or not either, just that he gets to fight and has money to feed his family.

Perhaps this is why he is the most dominant fighter. He just doesn't care if he loses. It's why he walks to the ring with relaxed aura about him. He legitimately doesn't care, so long as he gets paid.

In a way this is sad because although he surely knows how good he is, he doesn't even have a little bit of joy in his heart for the fact that he is so fantastic. I'm sure he knows, but he doesn't draw anything from it. His heart is so filled by his religion that he has no room for eartlhy things. I'm not being a jerk here, but from his interviews and what little specials there are of him, this seems to be the story.
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Who cares, I think Overeem, Rogers, and Barnett are way bigger threats than Lesnar, Carwin, and JDS/whoever anyway.


Like Fedor couldn't submit or KO lesnar, Couture was outstriking him FFS and Mir made him tap out. Carwin struggled really hard with Gonzaga (who Werdum beat twice) before the flash KO.

Plus now every fight with Fedor is free instead of $99.95+ that it would have been with UFC. Fedor in SF = good for MMA popularity. Fedor in UFC = good for DW's bank account.
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Old 11-30-2009, 02:56 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Who cares, I think Overeem, Rogers, and Barnett are way bigger threats than Lesnar, Carwin, and JDS/whoever anyway.


Like Fedor couldn't submit or KO lesnar, Couture was outstriking him FFS and Mir made him tap out. Carwin struggled really hard with Gonzaga (who Werdum beat twice) before the flash KO.

Plus now every fight with Fedor is free instead of $99.95+ that it would have been with UFC. Fedor in SF = good for MMA popularity. Fedor in UFC = good for DW's bank account.
Agreed there...UFC is having too many PPVs priced the same but not quite with the same level of talent...it hurts...so much.

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One man to blame in UFC-Fedor breakdown

By Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports
Jul 31, 5:37 pm EDT

Buzz up! 709 PrintIt’s easy to paint Vadim Finkelchtein as the villain in this mess between heavyweight Fedor Emelianenko and the Ultimate Fighting Championship.

Emelianenko is the free agent heavyweight with the gaudy 30-1 record and small but passionate fan base. The UFC is the world’s finest mixed martial arts promotional company and has roughly 90 percent of the top 100 fighters in the world under contract.

Emelianenko was looking for a place to fight and the UFC wanted to put on what it believed could have become a massive pay-per-view show with a big push by pitting Emelianenko against Brock Lesnar, its silo-sized heavyweight champion.



But no deal was reached despite a lucrative offer from the UFC. Though UFC president Dana White wouldn’t rule it out, chances of it happening in the future are remote.

Finkelchtein is the Russian heavyweight’s manager and, more significantly, the president and co-owner of what purports to be a major MMA promotional company, M-1 Global. Finkelchtein clearly used Emelianenko as a pawn in an attempt to force the UFC to accept M-1 as a partner. All M-1 Global brought to the table was one fighter, even if he is a very good one, which would have made White a moron had he acquiesced to that demand.

If the UFC was in the business of giving 50 percent of its company away every time it tried to sign an elite fighter, it would have been in worse shape a lot sooner than Chrysler.
The reason the deal didn’t get done is simple: Fedor Emelianenko.

Emelianenko’s supporters are going to point the finger at White as the reason a deal did not get done. White, though, agreed to essentially every demand Emelianenko made. He offered to pay him more than he’s ever made. He agreed to allow Emelianenko to fight in combat sambo. He agreed to allow Emelianenko to advertise M-1 on his fight shorts, on the apparel he wore and on banners his cornermen brought with them to the cage.

What White wouldn’t do, though, is give half of his company to Finkelchtein in return for the, ahem, privilege, of promoting Emelianenko’s next few fights.

The demand was kind of like an owner in the Continental Basketball Association demanding 50 percent ownership in an NBA team before allowing his player to sign.

Emelianenko can fight wherever he wants, of course. His legacy, though, took a serious shellacking when he refused to order Finkelchtein to get a deal done.
That would have allowed Emelianenko, who was ranked No. 2 in the most recent Yahoo! Sports pound-for-pound Top 10 poll, to end any doubts whether he is as great as his most ardent supporters say or whether he is overrated, as White insists. Rather, Emelianenko acts as if he’s under some sort of spell cast by Finkelchtein. He’s never met White and when Finkelchtein, White and UFC CEO Lorenzo Fertitta negotiated via conference call, Emelianenko was on the line but said nothing.

All Emelianenko needed to do to know what he should have done was to look to Tito Ortiz, the UFC’s former light heavyweight champion. Ortiz and White have long engaged in a nasty public feud and they split, seemingly for good, after Ortiz’ contract ran out after he lost to Lyoto Machida at UFC 84 in May 2008.

There Ortiz was, however, on a conference call on Friday all chummy chummy with White. White revealed he had flown to Huntington Beach, Calif., recently and met personally with Ortiz, where they finalized resolved their differences.

Ortiz had dalliances with Elite XC and Affliction and said he was close to a deal to fight for Strikeforce. He referred to Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker as “an awesome guy.”

Ortiz said the reason he opted to fight in the UFC is simple: Competition. “Who was I going to fight there?” Ortiz said. “I want to fight the best.”

It’s too bad Emelianenko doesn’t have the same attitude. Had he been outraged by Finkelchtein’s negotiating tactics and insisted Finkelchtein work out the best possible deal, White would have been announcing an Emelianenko-Lesnar bout at his ballyhooed news conference on Friday rather than again railing at Finkelchtein’s bizarre stance.

Finkelchtein released a statement on Friday before the UFC news conference in which he said, in part, “All we are asking is that there is give-and-take in the negotiations and that they are not one-sided.”

But the UFC gave on the money. The UFC gave on the Fedor’s desire to compete in the Russian combat sport of sambo. The UFC gave on allowing Fedor to wear M-1’s logos. Finkelchtein wouldn’t budge on his ridiculous demand that the UFC make him a full promotional partner.

So now, Emelianenko will be a free agent, traveling the world in search of a fight. He could fight Josh Barnett, whom he was supposed to fight on Saturday on an Affliction card until Barnett tested positive for an anabolic steroid and was denied a license by the California State Athletic Commission.

Emelianenko remains highly popular in Japan, where they don’t test for steroids and don’t honor U.S. suspensions. Barnett, who has been caught cheating more than once, could be licensed there and conceivably could fight Emelianenko.

But there are precious few quality opponents for him outside of the UFC. And none of the fights would captivate the world’s interest the way UFC 100 did on July 11.

Emelianenko is largely unknown in the U.S. despite his 30-1 record and long winning streak. The three pay-per-view shows he headlined in this country – PRIDE 32 in 2006, Affliction 1 in 2008 and Affliction 2 in January – sold a combined total of fewer than 300,000 units.

UFC 100 alone sold well over 1.5 million.

Finkelchtein clearly botched the negotiations, but he’s not to blame.

If Emelianenko really wanted to be in the UFC and fight the best competition in the world, he would have made certain Finkelchtein got it done.

If you want to blame someone in this fiasco, blame Emelianenko.

It’s 100 percent his fault.
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Old 11-30-2009, 04:13 PM   #30 (permalink)
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