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Old 12-01-2009, 12:02 AM   #11 (permalink)
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How this guy is overrated on this board is beyond me..but he is.

The guy is a terrible fighter. He has no stand-up, no submission defense, and careless grappling. He's a notch above Billy freaking Miles.
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Old 12-01-2009, 01:06 AM   #12 (permalink)
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He was a 3 time D1 champ wrestler better credentals than anyone else in the ufc
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Old 12-01-2009, 01:13 AM   #13 (permalink)
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You gotta be kidding me... seriously? This just pisses me off. In 5 years UFC will only consist of guys from TUF and 5 dominate champions that nobody will dethrone... because they're all just guys from TUF.
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Old 12-01-2009, 02:08 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Great.

He has no stand-up. He has no submission defense. He has careless grappling. He's been submitted in a flash by the likes of Dan Miller and Kendall Grove.

It took him 3 rounds to submit an exhausted Chris Leben.

I don't care about his wrestling credentials. Alberto Crane was also a BJJ world champion. He was a terrible fighter. Jake Rosholt has great wrestling credentials. He's a terrible fighter.

Hammerlock, funny you should mention that the UFC will only consist of guys from TUF..and dominant champs that no one will dethrone because they're on TUF. Are you implying that Jake Rosholt is one "to dethrone" a dominant champion? Need I remind you that Jake Rosholt was sickenly outgrappled by a...gasp, TUF winner.

Face it, the guy sucks.
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Old 12-01-2009, 03:10 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I imagine he'll be back.
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Old 12-01-2009, 03:46 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Great.

He has no stand-up. He has no submission defense. He has careless grappling. He's been submitted in a flash by the likes of Dan Miller and Kendall Grove.

It took him 3 rounds to submit an exhausted Chris Leben.

I don't care about his wrestling credentials. Alberto Crane was also a BJJ world champion. He was a terrible fighter. Jake Rosholt has great wrestling credentials. He's a terrible fighter.

Hammerlock, funny you should mention that the UFC will only consist of guys from TUF..and dominant champs that no one will dethrone because they're on TUF. Are you implying that Jake Rosholt is one "to dethrone" a dominant champion? Need I remind you that Jake Rosholt was sickenly outgrappled by a...gasp, TUF winner.

Face it, the guy sucks.
I think the point is that the UFC will allow fighters with less raw ability the opportunity to progress and even coddling some fighters wile cutting a green fighter with just as much if not more potential.

Strikeforce is a excellent place for him to go wile he picks up better striking.
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Old 12-01-2009, 07:10 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Great.

He has no stand-up. He has no submission defense. He has careless grappling. He's been submitted in a flash by the likes of Dan Miller and Kendall Grove.

It took him 3 rounds to submit an exhausted Chris Leben.

I don't care about his wrestling credentials. Alberto Crane was also a BJJ world champion. He was a terrible fighter. Jake Rosholt has great wrestling credentials. He's a terrible fighter.

Hammerlock, funny you should mention that the UFC will only consist of guys from TUF..and dominant champs that no one will dethrone because they're on TUF. Are you implying that Jake Rosholt is one "to dethrone" a dominant champion? Need I remind you that Jake Rosholt was sickenly outgrappled by a...gasp, TUF winner.

Face it, the guy sucks.
I wouldn't say that Grove "sickenly" outgrappled Rosholt. The fight I saw had Rosholt beating up on Grove pretty good and Grove slapping on the triangle. Can't really say that would happen against all other fighters, as Grove is kind of unique in the fact that he is so long, and I think it would be rather easy for him to use the triangle choke like that. Bad cut IMO, but I'd be willing to bet that he'll be back.
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Old 12-01-2009, 07:54 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I agree a bad cut. Im not a fan myself but I think that 1-2 record against 3 tough guys he has fought isn't "cut worthy" yet. Personally I would have let him do 1 more fight and if he had lost that then I would have cut him. Oh well, I wont lose my sleep because of this...
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It's a shame. I was starting to like Rosholt and he has potential. It's tough that he gets cut after a 1-2 record and Leben will stay in the UFC for years but that's because he was one of the original TUF fighters and that's the way things work.

He should go to Strikeforce now. I think it would be a good deal for both of them.
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The guy is is a pretty decent fighter IMO, he just has no sub defense, I still think he could beat a lot of other MW's in the UFC, he was smashing Grove until he got caught and he murdered Leben too. He will be back if he works non stop on his sub defense.
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