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Old 12-02-2009, 07:36 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Why is that? Bader has some pretty heavy hands, and Jardine has been knocked out before.
Exactly, bader could very well KO jardine. I dont see that happening but you have to remember bader has or is capable for 1 punch KO power he just had to refine his hands. I expect to see him because a lhw koscheck.
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Old 12-02-2009, 07:59 AM   #22 (permalink)
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because allot of his fights dont go to the ground, heck bj only has 4 sub wins in the ufc so I guess he is no threat or specialist either?
Not really an accurate comparison. BJ is a black belt in BJJ while Jardine is a black belt in Gaidojutsu (Greg Jackson's own personal version of BJJ, not really the same). Also a third of BJ's wins in mma (not just UFC) come in the form of submission. And as I stated before, Jardine is not feared for his sub skills and is not known as a BJJ specialist, while BJ is. The point was simply that Bader's ground game cannot be over looked in their match up.
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Old 12-02-2009, 09:40 AM   #23 (permalink)
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A very solid fight, and I have Bader taking it by TKO in the second round.

110 is shaping up to be a good event.
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When has Jardine ever proved this great ground game people talk about?

If he had such a good ground game maybe he would take the fight there more often considering his standup only works against certain styles?
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Old 12-02-2009, 09:40 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Then you guys can rest assured Bader will have been working to improve his hands, cause I'm sure he's also seen evidence of the glass chin we've been talking about.
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Old 12-02-2009, 09:50 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Then you guys can rest assured Bader will have been working to improve his hands, cause I'm sure he's also seen evidence of the glass chin we've been talking about.
Which is weird, because I've seen every jardine fight. His chin is random, against rampage he should have been KOed like 3 times. It is weird, not sure about that, but depending on him he can be easily KOed or not lol.
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I like both these fighters and want to see both of them get a few more wins in the octagon. However, Keith Jardine is my boy, and you gotta' have faith in Greg Jackson's camp.

The only time Keith has been knocked out was from top level competition, and I don't think that makes his chin questionable.

RANT/ I always here people talking about fighters with glass chins just because they've been knocked out once or twice. But you have to consider the level these athletes are competing at, someone is LIKELY to get knocked out. It's not the fighters chin but the angle and the momentum of the punch which you as a viewer cannot gauge. /RANT

Anyways;
With training partners like Nate Marquart, and Rashad Evans you can expect The Dean of Mean to be well prepared for anything. Jacksons camp is just so stack and these guys are all growing from each other. I predict a more refined Keith with a great gameplan.

Jardine via KO/TKO 2 round
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When has Jardine ever proved this great ground game people talk about?

If he had such a good ground game maybe he would take the fight there more often considering his standup only works against certain styles?
The reason for this might be his brain^^
I don't consider him one of the smartest in MMA today, so Bader will take's this one.
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Old 12-02-2009, 10:28 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Nice to see Bader step up against bigger and bigger named guys. They might be trying to make 205 the TUF Champion made weight class: Griffin, Evans, now Bader.

if Bader does good against Jardine, then gets one more Big Name in (maybe aforementioned Griffin & Evans; maybe Vera, Silva or Ortiz) he may be getting himself a title run by 2011.
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Hell throw a title fight on this one and it would be perfect great card thus far i think bader takes it by ko like alexander took it i think Jardine will underestimate him i think Cro cop takes his match up hands down
now the bonnar soszynski fight i think will be a war either ending by TKO or Sub for who i dont know yet and nothing bad about bisbing but i think wandy by KO 2 rd
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