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Old 08-14-2009, 12:36 PM   #521 (permalink)
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Damn CC you're all over the place. Tito can suggest whatever the hell he wants. When Chuck was asked about Rampage he said I'll love to fight him again, So what Big deal!! These guys are fighters


Yea if you cant win a silly argument change the subject and start talking some irrelevant garbage about my profile. Notice that 4 of the 5 "mods" have since been banned themselves.


Thats it bro...Im not here to argue, you seem to only do it......

Chuck never dodged Rampage and really im not all over the place, perhaps you are reading too far in as I have pointed out that its about Tito thinking he can just pick up where he left off talkin shit like he's on top of the division....

Do I like Tito no.....but if he were saying I'd like to fight rashad again i would be saying somthing similar....he needs to shut up and earn that right to fight Rashad...

I cant be more clear...unless you just want to go round and round......in that case PM me so others can share constructive thoughts on this article......
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Old 08-14-2009, 12:37 PM   #522 (permalink)
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Figures he starts with the mouth running......this is what annoys me with Tito, like now he knows there is no chance at least for now that he could possibly face Chuck, the guy he dodged forever then got whipped by, so he starts to open that huge mouth of his...."oh im the only guy that went three rounds with Machida."


Shut the Phuck up Tito.....earn some respect instead of thinking you just deserve it cuz of what you did like 8 yrs ago......
Agreed. Tito needs to focus on rebuilding his name in the cage, not with silly promos...this isn`t the WWE.
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Old 08-14-2009, 12:43 PM   #523 (permalink)
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Biowza.....this and I am being totally cool about it.....This first thing in your response that I made bold...is phuckin bullshit, your basically assuming that I meant something that I didnt mean......

That is very annoying, because I now have to respond to your assumptions....what i did mean is that Tito should be glad he's back and make people respect him through his performances.......FORGET CHUCK OR ANYTHING ABOUT HIM.....just in general he needs to earn at least for me.....my respect not talk about what he would like to be, he has done that long enough.....

"Why be angry at that part if youdont feel he was disrespectful or rude towards him?"

AGAIN I wasnt referring to Chuck, but rather his return to the UFC.......I can think that he is saying wow another fight with chuck would be great and have a poblem with that without thinking he is disrespecting Chuck......

Biowza......maybe you dont know this but Tito dodged Chuck while tito had the belt yrs ago....he talked about how he was in great shape when they fought and after the loss it was "oh my back"....

The entire point of my post was dont suggest a match-up with a man you dodged half your career and now he is retired say you would like to fight him...
Ok, so your main beef is that he said he would like to have fought Chuck one more time when he knew this would never happen? This is a pretty poor reason, seeing the frequency that fighters make these claims. BJ's done the exact same thing with GSP only a few days ago.

-He said he wants to fight GSP again
-He was in "the best shape of his life" before the fight and after the fight it was "grease/steroids/cheats"
-He knows himself that this fight won't happen again for a very long time (I actually think a Tito/Chuck rematch would be more likely)

All this is the exact same thing as what BJ, and lots of other fighter's have done as far as "challenges-that-will-probably-never-realise" go, Tito's is probably the most polite and least assuming I've seen in a while.

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I didn't Hi-Jack the thread at all. I still maintain that you think Tito disrespected Chuck, but I won't press the point. It's just my opinion.
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Yea if you cant win a silly argument change the subject and start talking some irrelevant garbage about my profile. Notice that 4 of the 5 "mods" have since been banned themselves.
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I think only time will tell whether tito can make an impact on the lhw divison again.
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Old 08-14-2009, 12:50 PM   #525 (permalink)
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Ok, so your main beef is that he said he would like to have fought Chuck one more time when he knew this would never happen? This is a pretty poor reason, seeing the frequency that fighters make these claims. BJ's done the exact same thing with GSP only a few days ago.

-He said he wants to fight GSP again
-He was in "the best shape of his life" before the fight and after the fight it was "grease/steroids/cheats"
-He knows himself that this fight won't happen again for a very long time (I actually think a Tito/Chuck rematch would be more likely)

All this is the exact same thing as what BJ, and lots of other fighter's have done as far as "challenges-that-will-probably-never-realise" go, Tito's is probably the most polite and least assuming I've seen in a while.


I didn't Hi-Jack the thread at all. I still maintain that you think Tito disrespected Chuck, but I won't press the point. It's just my opinion.

The bold part......YES....and Biowza thats all I was saying.....mainly because to counter your next point in your response, because IMO were not gonna see Chuck again......and i think Tito knows that....IMO(and Im assuming that so....I could be wrong)

As far as BJ your analogy is almost perfect except for all intensive purposes Chuck is basically retired and BJ is not only an active fighter but holds the belt obviously.......

I might be wrong about chuck comming back but with Dana not wanting him to fight anymore, them putting him in the Hall of Fame, and.....the belly he had when he got the award, all make me think Chuck will not be fighting again.....

I guess I would rather hear tito say somthing like Im glad to be back and there is a lot of great competion that i cannot wait to test myself against.....not too bad he retired.......


The last part in bold sums up what a waste of time trying to explain myself to you was...how much more sincere could I have been when I tried to explain my thinking and that you shouldnt assume......

If your mentality is like that....Im done with this.......

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I personally like Tito. Dude was hilarious taunting Shamrock on The Ultimate Fighter. I look forward to seeing him fight again, and I would not be surprised if he beats Liddell. I think Liddell's egg has been cracked too many times by now.
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The UFC had been on the map long before Tito, he happend to be the next big thing when the UFC hit the main stream.
Had Frank Shammrock not retired from the UFC after he beat Tito I dont think we are even talking about Tito.jmo
He reminds me of Eric Cartman afraid to fight wendy on south park,if you saw the episode you will know what I mean..
What do you mean long before Tito ? Frank Shamrock came awhile after Tito had been owning the heavyweight devision. Then they made the middle weight devision and then Shamrock came along. Frank Shamrock was a good fighter but he was never in the UFC long enough to make a difference. Tito has been in the UFC since UFC 13 and saying he had nothing to do with the UFCs success is just being ignorant and proves you dont know shit.
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Old 08-14-2009, 02:55 PM   #529 (permalink)
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I'm going to agree with ColdCall on this one.

I'm a fan of Tito, and think he's a good fighter.

But the first time when the match with Chuck Liddell was suggested, he started making excuses up, like ''Me and Chuck aren't going to fight, we're friends!''

When Liddell pointed out that these statements weren't true, and him and Ortiz weren't actually close friends, everyone could see that Ortiz was trying to duck a fight with Liddell, wanting to keep hold of his Light-Heavyweight Championship belt.

Then, all of a sudden, Chuck starts losing fights, and makes a sensible decision to retire instead of keep on fighting as a B-Level fighter, like Sakuraba.

When Ortiz sees this, he acts like he's always wanted a rematch with Chuck, saying it was too bad he had retired, he would have liked to fight him again.

Ortiz is way younger than Chuck, and would obviously hae an advantage now, since Ortiz is still a pretty good fighter (although he has not won a single fight since 2006, whether this is because he was inactive, I do not know).

My point is, you don't duck a fighter when he is in his prime, and then call him out when he is at his lowest point in his career.

By the way, for the people who are misunderstanding ColdCall, and making up statements, use the quote system, and try to discuss what he's said in his actual post.

I'm not trying to have a go at anyone (except you Villian, calling ColdCall a troll when he is a divisional Moderator, he has that spot for a reason), I'm just trying to express my opinion.
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Old 08-14-2009, 03:13 PM   #530 (permalink)
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Where exactly was this quoted from Coldcall? I'm having trouble seeing your point at the moment. I mean, unless Tito held a press conference to share his feelings on a rematch with Chuck, I really don't see what he's doing wrong here. I mean, yeah the guy probably ducked Chuck in the past and he's made himself into a clear villain over the years but I'm starting to find him much more tolerable nowadays. I actually felt that was a decent quote by Tito, as long as it's sincere.

And please don't mistake this for me trying to start/join in on an argument. I just want to know more about the situation before I really make my mind up about this quote.

And Evil Ira, I really don't feel like Tito is calling Chuck out on this one. He didn't even say he would beat Chuck, he just said he thought it would be a good fight and that the fans would probably like to see it again.

Edit- Actually now that I look at the quote, the whole "The last time I was at 100% was when I defended my title 5 times" is a little peculiar

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