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Old 08-19-2009, 02:32 PM   #551 (permalink)
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Randy would need to get close enough over and over and over again. Machida has no interest in standing and trading, which is what Randy uses to achieve that clinch. I actually think Machida's (excessively evasive) style is particularly difficult for Randy's up close battle plans.

The highlighted part is exactly what Machida would do.....what else do you think he would do, take Randy down??? No, clinch no, it would def be a standing fight and that is def where Machida would look to keep it and have the advantage......

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From what I can tell, he's only really come out and said, 'I want to fight Fedor'. He's also mentioned that he'd be interested in the idea of fighting Lyoto and Anderson. That's three fighters. Some might say the three top fighters in the world. And so I reiterate. Randy wants to fight the best. Not every fighter in MMA. I'm not being disrespectful. I just think that some of you are severely sensationalizing this. Furthermore, as MMA fans, we should be thrilled by the prospect of Randy Couture versus any of the three aforementioned fighters. Not rolling our eyes at it.


Yeah, your totally right but why does he feel like he just deserves a shot....I mean I realize things get taken out of context, but to move in weight classes you then need to establish a couple wins in that repective division before just expecting a fight.......

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Old 08-19-2009, 02:34 PM   #552 (permalink)
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I'd like to see Randy fight Machida, I think Machida would win, but I'd still like to see it.
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The highlighted part is exactly what Machida would do.....what else do you think he would do, take Randy down??? No, clinch no, it would def be a standing fight and that is def where Machida would look to keep it and have the advantage......
I think he meant he wouldn't be standing in the same spot and trading leather but rather sticking and moving.
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Randy's Greco could give Machida problems. I think he could close the gap and take Lyoto down.

Id give him a good shot.
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Intresting but randy is starting to wear on me with the whole I want to fight anyone with a belt........thoughts???


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I think he should concentrating on coaching Gina so awesomely that SHE has a belt one day.
I don't see Gina ever getting past Cyborg. I do think Gina could be a 135lb champion though.
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Randy's Greco could give Machida problems. I think he could close the gap and take Lyoto down.

Id give him a good shot.
I'm not comparing Randy to Tito Ortiz or anything, but the similarity in this particular instance is a style on style issue. Tito's biggest issue wasn't so much a simple closing of the gap. Tito could close the gap to strike and close it enough to "attempt" double/single leg TD's, it was the issue of closing the gap enough to wrap his arms around Lyoto (for muay thai clinch or under hooks). As an overall fighter, clearly Randy beats out Tito, but if we're talking strictly about wrestling ability, I actually think Tito's TD is stronger. I think Randy is much better at working the clinch then Tito, but that's a level of proximity that Lyoto is not known to give up.

That said, Randy is a smart fighter and has a good talent for adjusting, but I don't think he could adjust enough to effectively utilize his dirty boxing. Lyoto rarely gets that close and when he does, it's usually just his leg kicking you with his torso still 5 feet back, 6" with his "Karate" back-lean.
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The highlighted part is exactly what Machida would do.....what else do you think he would do, take Randy down??? No, clinch no, it would def be a standing fight and that is def where Machida would look to keep it and have the advantage......
I don't think we're in disagreement, I was sort of sticking up for Lyoto and making a case as to why Randy would have a hard time against him.
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I think he meant he wouldn't be standing in the same spot and trading leather but rather sticking and moving.
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Yeah, your totally right but why does he feel like he just deserves a shot....I mean I realize things get taken out of context, but to move in weight classes you then need to establish a couple wins in that repective division before just expecting a fight.......
A point of view which I can both appreciate and respect. I'm all for earning your spot. That said, there are certain fighters who are effectively able to 'ride' their names and accomplishments, so to speak. With what BJ has done, he was able to move up and get an immediate title shot at GSP, and while some were against it, most simply wanted to see what was perceived to be a battle between two of the best in the sport. The same could be said of GSP. His name value alone could earn him a fight with Anderson at Middleweight, and could no doubt do the same for Silva at Light Heavyweight were he willing to fight for the belt.

Randy has done and accomplished enough to warrant being considered a 'super-fight' contender, which is why you'd see him placed almost immediately against the likes of Silva or Lyoto. He's proven what he's capable of, and while you, myself, and others might appreciate him working his way up the ladder, he's certainly earned a 'pass' here and there. In the end, I think we're more likely to see Silva vs. Couture, and if Randy can get by Anderson, I'd say he's more than earned his shot at Machida. Whether or not he can, however, is a completely different story. I do believe it's a fight we'll see in the not too distant future.

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