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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 12-03-2009, 04:07 AM Thread Starter
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‘Jacare’ Souza Breaks Down Anderson Silva’s Ground Game

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Those who still question UFC middleweight champion Anderson Silva’s Brazilian jiu-jitsu credentials might want to consult Ronaldo “Jacare” Souza.

In advance of his showdown with Matt Lindland at Strikeforce “Evolution” on Dec. 19 at the HP Pavilion in San Jose, Calif., Souza spent time alongside the man many consider the top pound-for-pound fighter in the world. Silva’s detractors have long pointed to his ground game as a potential weakness, despite submission victories against Travis Lutter and two-time Olympian Dan Henderson.

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“I can attest that he is truly a black belt,” Souza said. “He’s an excellent athlete with technique to match that athleticism. He’s familiar with all the basic jiu-jitsu techniques, which is of utmost importance for an MMA fighter, and he also uses some mind-boggling positions that no one else can pull off. I’d say Anderson is a versatile black belt who’s also very good defensively.”
Arguably the most feared striker in mixed martial arts, Silva showed Souza a few tricks of the trade during the time they have spent together in the gym.

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“As for his stand-up, what else is there to say?” Souza asked. “I’ve learned more than I’ve taught here, and I’m very happy to be a part of this team.”
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His BJJ's certainly good but never been overly impressed with it quite honestly.
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In one sense I would have to agree with you. Looking at AS's loses minus the DQ, 2 out of 3 he was subbed. And than in a more recent fight with Leites, he wanted no part of the ground game with him (I do understand that AS was also fighting the smart fight, it makes more sense to fight to your strengths) If his bjj is that good, why not showcase it more often?
On the other hand, when a sub specialist like Jacare gives you that kind of praise, it speaks volumes. IMO we will never know, because in his next 3 fights, supposedly his last 3, I really don't see anyone going to the ground with him. (That's assuming he fights Belfort, Nate and Hendo (if he resigns with the UFC)).

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In one sense I would have to agree with you. Looking at AS's loses minus the DQ, 2 out of 3 he was subbed. And than in a more recent fight with Leites, he wanted no part of the ground game with him (I do understand that AS was also fighting the smart fight, it makes more sense to fight to your strengths) If his bjj is that good, why not showcase it more often?
On the other hand, when a sub specialist like Jacare gives you that kind of praise, it speaks volumes. IMO we will never know, because in his next 3 fights, supposedly his last 3, I really don't see anyone going to the ground with him. (That's assuming he fights Belfort, Nate and Hendo (if he resigns with the UFC)).
Not saying AS's ground game isn't good because it is, but I'd take this with a grain of salt tbh.

Being friends and training partners (trained together) they're supposed to say these kind of things about each other.

Just like when Wandy was giving praise to Maia's stand up: "He's gotcho goodjo stand up"..

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Nice phonetic Wandy quote. LOL


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I'm not impressed with silvas ground game.I suspect, but i cant prove, that he may have a fake black belt or that his black belt was not as well earned as other guys like frank mir or nog.
I'm not impressed with your posts on this forum. I suspect that's why you have a red bar.
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I'm not impressed with silvas ground game.I suspect, but i cant prove, that he may have a fake black belt or that his black belt was not as well earned as other guys like frank mir or nog.
Yeah I agree, Anderson's teacher must have been WAY worse than Nog's teacher, Anderson's teacher probably just gives belts out at autograph signings.



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I like Jacare but it definitely seems like some friend-boasting here. The triangle he had on lutter had a LOT of problems that blackbelts... hell, blue belts wouldn't allow. And he seemed flustered trying to finish it.
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IMO, his "submission victory" over Hendo isn't all that impressive... he beat Hendo nearly unconscious, then Hendo rolled over and all but ASKED Anderson to choke him out. At that moment, Hendo was beaten so silly that even a schlub like me might have been able to wrap my arm around Hendo's neck, sink hooks, and pull. I think the real credit in that fight goes to Andy's striking.

That being said, I wouldn't call Andy's BJJ "poor", from what little we've seen. And since we haven't seen any of it in quite a while, there's no telling if he's improved or not.

Besides... look at how far Chuck Liddell took the "don't go to the ground, just knock them out" attitude. If you can pull it off... why not?

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I'd like to add that it's not Andy's sub defense or offense that's lacking, but primarily the wrestling aspect of it.

Silva's not a bad submission guy but he's certainly no grappler.
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Well theres better BJJ guys in the ufc but silva is still up there. He knows what he's doing on the ground and can pull decent subs but like khov said hes no grappler.
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