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Old 12-03-2009, 11:12 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Tough fight for JDS. I wonder if he'll try to take it to the ground.
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Old 12-03-2009, 11:17 PM   #22 (permalink)
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about time Dos Santos gets a real test


that said...Yvel by liver kick RD1 3:51
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Cigano by t/ko. He's a gamer man, and I can't wait to see him get some of the upper teer fighters such as Shane, Cain or even Mir. But yeah, this one should be taken by Dos Santos.
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Old 12-04-2009, 12:14 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Big test for JDS standup Yvel is no joke standing. I could definetly see an upset in this fight. I think we could be in for a damn good fight either way.
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People seem to think Dos Santos is gonna take Yvel down and control or submit him on the ground but there is a reason Barnett didn't keep trying to submit Yvel, its because he was constantly looking to defend and sweep. Yvel may not have alot offensively from his back (besides the most bad ass reverse GnP ever) but he is defensively at least solid. Barnett has extremely good top control so don't be fooled by the fact he managed to Velasquez/Kongo Yvel that its an easy task, Yvel is better defensively than Kongo and didn't look like a fish out of water against one of the top 5 (at the time anyhow) HW's in the world. Besides Dos Santos chose to stand and trade with Cro Cop who despite being a shell of his former self has a legacy that still strikes fear into the hearts of men. Im very surprised to see just how many people are writing the Hurricane outta this fight.
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Old 12-04-2009, 12:47 AM   #26 (permalink)
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yah just because Junior trains with Nog doesnt mean he is some beast on the ground. I am pretty sure he isnt a black belt in BJJ and his only loss is to an armbar. I see this as a striking battle and thats exactly what Yvel wants. Yvels TDD is not that great though so I bet JDS could get him down there. This is a real test to see how good JDS actually is standing.
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I think that Yvel is a much more aggressive striker then we have seen JDS face inside of the UFC. Crocop is/was a great striker, but he has always been more of a sit back and pick his shots type of fighter. Yvel will be in Dos Santos face and wont be looking to back up. He wont be nearly as cautious as he was against Barnett because Dos Santos hasnt really shown off his ground game in the UFC. This fight is gonna kick some serious ass.
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I have little doubt Dos Santos can take Yvel down, Yvel's TD defense is average at best but getting him down and keeping him down are not the same thing.
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People seem to think Dos Santos is gonna take Yvel down and control or submit him on the ground but there is a reason Barnett didn't keep trying to submit Yvel, its because he was constantly looking to defend and sweep. Yvel may not have alot offensively from his back (besides the most bad ass reverse GnP ever) but he is defensively at least solid. Barnett has extremely good top control so don't be fooled by the fact he managed to Velasquez/Kongo Yvel that its an easy task, Yvel is better defensively than Kongo and didn't look like a fish out of water against one of the top 5 (at the time anyhow) HW's in the world. Besides Dos Santos chose to stand and trade with Cro Cop who despite being a shell of his former self has a legacy that still strikes fear into the hearts of men. Im very surprised to see just how many people are writing the Hurricane outta this fight.
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yah just because Junior trains with Nog doesnt mean he is some beast on the ground. I am pretty sure he isnt a black belt in BJJ and his only loss is to an armbar. I see this as a striking battle and thats exactly what Yvel wants. Yvels TDD is not that great though so I bet JDS could get him down there. This is a real test to see how good JDS actually is standing.

I see zero reason for JDS to take this to the ground except perhaps for some quick GnP or just for points.

Barnett is a 2009 World NO-GI champion, he's arguable the top grappler at HW. Barnett getting beatup on the ground (from back no less) by Yvel speaks volumes IMO.

But JDS is the superior striker by far. He's an 18-0 brazillian heavyweight kickboxing champ and he trains with Anderson Silva, Lil Nog, and Machida. He KO'd Werdum in like a minute and Werdum is no joke - easily a bigger win than Gonzaga for Carwin or Rothwell for Valesquez.



I expect JDS to feel Yvel out for the first 3-4 minutes of rd 1 and eat a few shots during it. After that JDS will pretty much just rock house.
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Gilbert Yvel 36 wins, 31 wins by KO. Do not think JDS is going to run through him standing.
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