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Old 12-04-2009, 11:38 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I would be very wary of buying into this hype. I am about 90% certain this is just Dana trying desperately to build up some giant comeback for Brock.

The truth is Diverticulitis is very treatable. Frankly, the idea that someone in good physical condition, with essentially limitless funds for health care, (ie, Lesnar) could have their career ended is extremely unlikely.

I'm not saying Diverticulitis is a walk in the park, it isn't, it is painful and nasty, but the only real factor for Lesnar should be time. Given enough time to train and recover, he should be 100% again with no real difficulty. Dana just wants to make it sound like he recovered from terminal brain cancer, aids and brain sucking aliens all at the same time to hype his return. Odds are overwhelming that he will be fine, it will just take awhile.
Diverticulitis is treatable, however when surgery is required that probably falls under the category of Perforated Diverticulitis, in which they remove part of you colon or intestine, which ever the effected area is. When you have that kind of surgery, there is a good chance that everything will be fine, but there is also a chance that it will not heal properly,which may require more surgery. How do I know this, I had the surgery 2 1/2 years ago and still have some residual effects. True that I don't have the seemingly limitless healthcare benefits that Brock does, yet no matter how good it may be, no one can predict or control how the body is naturally going to react to having part of a key organ removed. My MIL has been battling intestinal issues for the last 3 years, 2 1/2 of which she has had 13 surgeries and most of that time in the hospital. The facts have been minimal at best in this situation and just because DW usually likes to put some hype on things I don't think it is fair to jump to conclusions. Don't discard that although seemingly minor and treatable, this is a very serious illness and for some can be life threatening. And as much as people like to hate on DW for his brashness and his flair for creating drama, I just find it hard to imagine he would do so in this case.
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Old 12-04-2009, 11:46 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Diverticulitis is treatable, however when surgery is required that probably falls under the category of Perforated Diverticulitis, in which they remove part of you colon or intestine, which ever the effected area is. When you have that kind of surgery, there is a good chance that everything will be fine, but there is also a chance that it will not heal properly,which may require more surgery. How do I know this, I had the surgery 2 1/2 years ago and still have some residual effects. True that I don't have the seemingly limitless healthcare benefits that Brock does, yet no matter how good it may be, no one can predict or control how the body is naturally going to react to having part of a key organ removed. My MIL has been battling intestinal issues for the last 3 years, 2 1/2 of which she has had 13 surgeries and most of that time in the hospital. The facts have been minimal at best in this situation and just because DW usually likes to put some hype on things I don't think it is fair to jump to conclusions. Don't discard that although seemingly minor and treatable, this is a very serious illness and for some can be life threatening. And as much as people like to hate on DW for his brashness and his lair for creating drama, I just find it hard to imagine he would do so in this case.
Agree with you in general, but Dana does tend to go a little overboard. When he first addressed the media he seriously made it sound like Brock was gonna croak, or that he was on his death bed while remaining very vague.

Even in Dana's twitter yesterday he said "Brock was VERY sick", which according to Meltzer already is false. Meltzer said said Brock is not VERY sick, but he's still in the woods regarding his intestinal condition and so is his career.

Maybe they have different definitions of VERY sick, or maybe Dana is a drama queen.
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Old 12-04-2009, 11:50 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Agree with you in general, but Dana does tend to go a little overboard. When he first addressed the media he seriously made it sound like Brock was gonna croak, or that he was on his death bed while remaining very vague.

Even in Dana's twitter yesterday he said "Brock was VERY sick", which according to Meltzer already is false. Meltzer said said Brock is not VERY sick, but he's still in the woods regarding his intestinal condition and so is his career.

Maybe they have different definitions of VERY sick, or maybe Dana is a drama queen.
Yes he does tend to go overboard. I can only speak from personal experience as to when this first came out and Dana leading to him on his death bed. When mine first flared out I went a couple of days fighting what i perceived as intense stomach pain until finally I went to the ER. Had I waited another day or so, I could have very well died according to what the doctors had told me.

We don't have any facts in this case beyond he had surgery for Diverticulitis so I really don't want to speculate too much. I just felt it prudent to clarify that it is entirely plausible that to what Dana is saying.

VERY sick and still in the woods are completely up to one's perception all of which could simply mean that his recovery is going slow, or maybe as you said Dana is just a drama queen.

I just look forward to hearing from Brock himself and being that we haven't yet it just adds to the plausibility that he truly is still very sick IMO.
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Old 12-05-2009, 12:17 AM   #35 (permalink)
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I believe Dana is tryin to build a huge comeback for him...honestly hope so anyway. Brock is an awesome fighter, he can be pretty rude at times but that doesnt take away from the fact that he can scrap and definitely want to see him back in the octagon soon!!
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Old 12-05-2009, 12:37 AM   #36 (permalink)
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You guys realize that when brock gets better he will STILL have to take alot of time off to build back muscle again right? I wouldnt expect to see him fight for at least another year.


First time I agree with ya. People are thinking "oh the disease/surgery is better in 6 months so he fights in 6 months."


Say he's finally better after 6 months. He needs MINIMUM 6 months to regain the majority of his muscle and endurance, and to brush up again on his MMA game. Then at least 3 months to do a real training camp for his first fight.
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That, or the biggest ppv seller in the history of ufc, the current HW champion and the guy who changed his entire life around to perform on a sport he has been a fan about for a while is actually sick and needs all our support (even the imaginary one from imaginary god(s) helps! The idiots like you prolly still deny the death of Hitler, Moon (both visiting of it and in general the whole existance of entire place) and the fact that not every person does mma just to sell tickets.
It isn't unreasonable to believe Dana White is exaggerating, he does it all the time. How many "most important announcement ever" have we had from Dana that turned out to be practically nothing? The guy said in his post that Brock was ill, he's just doubting that his career or life is in doubt. You manage to be wrong and a giant douche more consistently than almost anyone on this board.
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He had a brain tumor and went from 220 lbs to 120 lbs following his surgery, and he lost muscle mass, fat and obviously water weight. All of which he put back on within a year.
Christian Bale also went from 120 to 220 when he did the movie The Machinist and then went on to Batman.
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First time I agree with ya. People are thinking "oh the disease/surgery is better in 6 months so he fights in 6 months."


Say he's finally better after 6 months. He needs MINIMUM 6 months to regain the majority of his muscle and endurance, and to brush up again on his MMA game. Then at least 3 months to do a real training camp for his first fight.
Would have to agree that it'll probably be over a year before we see Brock in the cage again.
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Yeah I agree, because obviously there is no way Brock could sell all those tickets without a fake injury and derailing of 2-3 awesome cards. All these fake injuries are just a build up for one massive "anti superbowl" card where Brock ends up fighting cancer becauser Carwin is busy getting his arm chopped in 2 by Nog/Mir.
It'll be the biggest ppv in the history of ufc all thanks to idiot fan's and Dana's creative hype up!

That, or the biggest ppv seller in the history of ufc, the current HW champion and the guy who changed his entire life around to perform on a sport he has been a fan about for a while is actually sick and needs all our support (even the imaginary one from imaginary god(s) helps! The idiots like you prolly still deny the death of Hitler, Moon (both visiting of it and in general the whole existance of entire place) and the fact that not every person does mma just to sell tickets.
When Brock started MMA he told Dana that he has no interest to build up a streak by fighting cans, he got Mir as his first opponent at UFC and from there it has been nothing but improvement from him. Even if Dana thinks about money there is no reason for Brock to fake an injury. If Brock wants and is able to fight, he will, but right now that injury is aking too much strenght from him.


Maybe his uncle was a sumo wrestler, which I agree is about only real way an "athlete" can regain 50 kg ( or 100lbs) while remaining competetive.
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It means, READ THE POST. How you managed to have over 600 posts without ever reading anyone elses is a mystery to me.

I never said he was faking the injury, which was obvious if you had read the post. My point was that I don't believe the injury is career threatening, which Dana has said it was about 10 times already.

It will take Brock a long time to get back into fighting shape, possibly a full calendar year from now, he may not fight again until 2011, but barring some disastrous and unlikely turn of events, he will fight again.

READ THE POST MOUTH-BREATHER, THEN COMMENT.

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