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View Poll Results: JDS: Love or Hate??

Love Him 30 52.63%
Hate Him 2 3.51%
Don't Really Care 25 43.86%
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Old 12-05-2009, 12:06 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Remember that Love and Hate are not mean't to be taken literally, it's more of a like-dislike option, love-hate just has a better ring to it.
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Old 12-05-2009, 12:48 AM   #12 (permalink)
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lol khov is easy to play like a fiddle... a guy with a loss already to a grappler who isnt very high level... will he flash KO every grappler like he did with Werdum?? His hands are definately lethal, i havent seen much kicking going on and little ground game and his build looks kind of small for HW.

BTW why all the talk of Brazilian kickboxing?? Since when is Brazil known as the worldwide leader in kickboxing?? He obv is very good standing but so are alot of other HWs. He wont be able to stop the TD's, bottom line and his BJJ wont save him, he isnt Nog on the ground nor do i expect him ever to be, he is smart and has taken a bunch of fights that really suite his style against not so great opponents outside of Werdum (who is a good matchup for him again, not a big wrestler known for TDs).

Soon we are going to see Junior flat on his back, i guarantee it, with a wrestler/bjj guy on top, GG was gonna be the 1st to expose it but seems we will have to wait another good stylistic matchup for JDS coming up altho a dangerous one.

I guess having an opinion makes me a moron Time will prove who is right so i wouldnt be so quick to dismiss anything acting all superior when the guy really has had a bunch of cans or really great stylistic matchups and has ONE LOSS ALREADY.....

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Old 12-05-2009, 01:48 AM   #13 (permalink)
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lol khov is easy to play like a fiddle...
No, he just doesn't like your borderline-handicapped posts.

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a guy with a loss already to a grappler who isnt very high level...
So what. Anderson Silva lost to Daiju Takase. Look at him now.

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He wont be able to stop the TD's
How do you know this? He seems pretty athletic to me....

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his BJJ wont save him, he isnt Nog on the ground nor do i expect him ever to be
Yeah he isn't Nog, only Nog is Nog, but Nog is his BJJ instructor so his BJJ will probably not suck.

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he is smart and has taken a bunch of fights that really suite his style against not so great opponents outside of Werdum (who is a good matchup for him again, not a big wrestler known for TDs).
Against not so great opponents? Has Velasquez fought better competition or something?

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I guess having an opinion makes me a moron
No, your biased and limited knowledge of MMA, combined with thinking you're correct all the time makes you a moron.

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and has ONE LOSS ALREADY.....
Wow a loss....that makes him an incomplete and overrated fighter doesn't it.
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Old 12-06-2009, 12:36 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Old 12-06-2009, 12:51 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Guys, I don't like giving out infractions but I'll have to if you don't keep it civil. No insulting each other.

I do like JDS though

But think he'll lose to Yvel.. and I agree with alizio when he says hed lose to the big strong HW wrestlers.
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Old 12-06-2009, 02:56 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Guys, I don't like giving out infractions but I'll have to if you don't keep it civil. No insulting each other.

I do like JDS though

But think he'll lose to Yvel.. and I agree with alizio when he says hed lose to the big strong HW wrestlers.

Brown belt under nog meaning nothing? JDS is a big strong dude who rolls with the best. The only wrestler bigger than him at HW is Lesnar and that's not even for sure any more. I think everyone is writing him off on the ground already which is silly.
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Doesn't mean he has the guard of a Big Nog.

The reason why Nog has such a dangerous guard and very good MMA BJJ (eventhough his pure BJJ credentials arent top noch) is because he doesnt mind eating 2-3 hard shots from the top to improve his position in order to set up a sweep or lock in a sub. Not everybody can do that..

Lesnar and Shane Carwin are both bigger than JDS. Cain is about the same size but like it or not, he'd TD him too.
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Doesn't mean he has the guard of a Big Nog.

The reason why Nog has such a dangerous guard and very good MMA BJJ (eventhough his pure BJJ credentials arent top noch) is because he doesnt mind eating 2-3 hard shots from the top to improve his position in order to set up a sweep or lock in a sub. Not everybody can do that..

Lesnar and Shane Carwin are both bigger than JDS. Cain is about the same size but like it or not, he'd TD him too.
ahh the awful truth!! +rep... perfect matchup for Cain stylistically, there is NO CHANCE he can stop the TDs. I'd bet the bank on that. Only hope if flash KOing and i find it doubtful. Cain rolls with better ground guys at AKA on a daily basis, BJJ or wrestlers... nobody at blackhouse is a high level wrestler. I just dont see JDS being able to stop TDs consistently given his pedigree and size and subbing these big HWs from teh bottom is something that Nog has trouble doing and takes TREMENDOUS punishment to do so that i just dont see JDS being capable of doing. He has already been subbed and never seems like he wants to take the fight to the ground because he knows it's a weak spot. Cain would dictate where the fight took place, no doubt.

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Well yeah, Cain better not strike with him for too long.

We saw how badly Kongo messed him up in the 30 secs the fight was on the feet and JDS is a very explosive striker.
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Well yeah, Cain better not strike with him for too long.

We saw how badly Kongo messed him up in the 30 seconds the fight was on the feet and JDS is a very explosive striker.
i agree, JDS would def have the advantage on the feet but i think alot of ppl dont realize how good Cains standup can be... but it's def still a work in progress and i wouldnt encourage testing it with JDS. He knows he messed up in the Kongo fight with the head movement and such but that being said he took two really big, flush, right hands from Kongo that im sure would KO or at the very least knockdown or heavily rock most if not all other HWs and the recovery time and instant TD he did was remarkable imo

I dont know if JDS could move down to LHW but i do see problems in his future at HW dealing with big TD artists and really good top game guys. If im wrong and he goes on to destroy these type of fighters consistently feel free to bring up this thread and laugh
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