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post #51 of 63 (permalink) Old 12-10-2009, 11:56 PM
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Doesn't matter what it was. TD attempt or not, my point still stands.

JDS' TDD isnt 'great', at least not until he proves it.
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Doesn't matter what it was. TD attempt or not, my point still stands.

JDS' TDD isnt 'great', at least not until he proves it.

True, but we can't say it's "nonexistent" or "horrible" like people do for Kongo. People are starting to associate exceptional striking with awful TDD, and so far, that hasn't been the case with JDS.
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Of course not. Until we see how he fares against better wrestlers than Fabdum and Struve all we can say is 'we don't know'.

In the clinch though he seems pretty strong, but I still think the best HW wrestlers TD him.
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Of course not. Until we see how he fares against better wrestlers than Fabdum and Struve all we can say is 'we don't know'.

In the clinch though he seems pretty strong, but I still think the best HW wrestlers TD him.

Agreed, but I think they'll pay for it with knees/uppercuts, and once on the ground, I'm sure he'll prove to be no chump.

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True, but we can't say it's "nonexistent" or "horrible" like people do for Kongo. People are starting to associate exceptional striking with awful TDD, and so far, that hasn't been the case with JDS.

Jumpin in to the tail end of this discussion and in terms of Kongo which I know this thread isnt aout, he does have TDD its not the best, but it does work for him up till a certain point in the fight, and those people who just write him off as having none are simply sstupid or need their eye's checked, for me i think he gets worn down with the TDD and evetntually, that loses him the fight.....

Just thoughts...like I said from the tail end of you and Xerxes discussion...
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Jumpin in to the tail end of this discussion and in terms of Kongo which I know this thread isnt aout, he does have TDD its not the best, but it does work for him up till a certain point in the fight, and those people who just write him off as having none are simply sstupid or need their eye's checked, for me i think he gets worn down with the TDD and evetntually, that loses him the fight.....

Just thoughts...like I said from the tail end of you and Xerxes discussion...
True, and getting taken down by Valesquez is, to a lesser extent, like saying Alves has awful TDD because he got taken down at will by GSP.

I definitely think we rag on strikers more for average TDD than we do wrestlers with average striking.
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True, and getting taken down by Valesquez is, to a lesser extent, like saying Alves has awful TDD because he got taken down at will by GSP.

I definitely think we rag on strikers more for average TDD than we do wrestlers with average striking.

I think by now you know I live down here near Thiago i see him out he is a big boy, we went to the same Highschool, I have spoke to im, he says he trined his TDD vert hard for that fight, actually he slurred that to me being wasted, but I knew what he meant. I was def not impressed with his TDD against GSP.....only reason I say that.....I mean it is GSP.....is because he was so cerrtain he had the answer, I wonder if that could end up being the case here with Kongo....

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Out of Blackhouse fighters he's probably one of the ones I care less about. I haven't really seen enough of his fights, or footage to really care about him as a fighter.






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Out of Blackhouse fighters he's probably one of the ones I care less about. I haven't really seen enough of his fights, or footage to really care about him as a fighter.
Please watch the UFC highlight video that's earlier in the thread?
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