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Old 08-31-2007, 11:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Wow, i was just thinking and drinking. great combo, anyways what would happen is frank shamrock came to the UFC? fought at 185, would he beat anderson silva? how would he fare against dan henderson? or even rich franklin?

i just thought of this and got excited.

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Old 08-31-2007, 11:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'd be all for it. Frank can still be a force, and has always had good gameplans (Minus the Renzo fight). Good chin, good stand-up, and good on the ground, not to mention that he can cut a promo and has charisma (And the Shamrock name).

Hendo vs Frankie would seriously be great. A fight I've always been curious about because of their grappling match.

So yeah, that'd rule.
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Old 08-31-2007, 11:19 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I'd be all for it. Frank can still be a force, and has always had good gameplans (Minus the Renzo fight). Good chin, good stand-up, and good on the ground, not to mention that he can cut a promo and has charisma (And the Shamrock name).

Hendo vs Frankie would seriously be great. A fight I've always been curious about because of their grappling match.

So yeah, that'd rule.

yea! i think i may of seen that. the one where frank won via knee lock?
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Old 08-31-2007, 11:20 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Heel hook, but yeah, that's the match. Frank looked pretty great in that. Like, really great.
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I think Frank Shamrock has a great shot at Anderson, Rich and Henderson. Let me break down why (I'm a huge Frank fan so this is somewhat biased)

Anderson Silva - I don't really see Anderson KO'in Frank standing and since Anderson's takedown defense is his weakest point and Frank has always had great takedowns I think He could get Anderson down to the ground. Now on the ground this isn't really a contest in my book. Frank destroys Anderson. The only person in the MW divison who can fight with Frank on the ground Submission wise is Filho. I think Frank taps Anderson 4th round title fight 3 round fight I think Anderson takes a decison.

Franklin - Truthfully the only advantage I think Rich has in this fight is size and I think Frank could handle that. Frank is much better on the ground and their stand up is close and I might even give Frank the advantage.

Dan Henderson - Henderson is much closer IMO than the other 2 since he can take advantage of Frank's biggest weakness his Takedown Defense. But Henderson has gone away from his wrestling lately and I really can't get the contenders fight between these two out of my head even though that probably has nothing ot do with anything.
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It really sucks both Dana and Frank cant get past their stupid retarded grade school rivalry and hammer out a deal. Franks getting pretty close to the end of his career and for him to go out fighting B level fighters like Baroni til he retires sucks balls. Elitexc can provide some side show match ups(cung le) that draw some ppv numbers but if Frank wants to prove hes the man(which he "knows" he is) then he needs to come to the UFC and prove it. You cant sit on your win over Tito forever.
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Personally, I feel that Frank is still one of the top MW's in the world. He's an incredible fighter and his last few fights have done nothing to disavow me of that notion. While the nickname is lame, he really is a legend and I think he could easily be contender material in the UFC, if not that champion himself. Anderson Silva is one of the most impressive fighters I've ever watched fight, and I would still bet on Frank beating him in a fight for the title. Knee locks on Silva's bad knees, one hit KO power, and more confidence than anyone in the game = Winner in that match up.
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I'd be all for it. Frank can still be a force, and has always had good gameplans (Minus the Renzo fight). Good chin, good stand-up, and good on the ground, not to mention that he can cut a promo and has charisma (And the Shamrock name).

Hendo vs Frankie would seriously be great. A fight I've always been curious about because of their grappling match.

So yeah, that'd rule.
i agree 100%, and can't think of anything else to add.

well stated.
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Top MW? Who in his streak in the ufc did he beat other then Tito and Jeremy Horn whose worth mentioning. Yeah, he was a really well rounded fighter at a time where everyone pretty much focused on one skill but Im getting pretty tired of this idea that Frank Shamrock is still a top MW. Shit Fedor has been off fighting guys for less then a year and people say hes lost his touch. Imagine a guy who hasnt fought anyone in ******* 8 years.
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Old 09-01-2007, 12:51 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Wow lets see last time I checked Igor Zinoviev was an pretty good fighter who beat Mario Sperry and Had the potential to be one of the great fighters until Frank slammed his career to an end. Kevin Jackson was a world class wrestler. 4 of his 5 wins are quiet impressive. And btw beating Phil Baroni on with a torn acl is pretty damn impressive since he couldn't even take Baroni down.
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