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Old 12-09-2009, 12:27 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Hmmm, I don't know what to make of BJ Penn's statements. On the one hand he quite right - The mental aspect of Diego Sanchez is stronger than his skills. On the other hand, you could argue that in order to even be an MMA fighter you have to start by being a tenacious mofo. Therefore, that could be applied to anyone, including Penn.

Thing is though, Diego will have been the biggest and most unrelenting 155er he has faced in quite a long time. It's good for him that he is on underestimating Sancheza, but if it goes to the later rounds, Penn better be on his toes because that's when Sanchez is likely to be most dangerous.

I would agree with Toxic that his striking isn't amazing. I would say it's decent, but nothing to write home about. His wrestling is good and his BJJ is decent as well. All in all he is a pretty well rounded fighter but doesn't have any specific devasting technique that should bother Penn too much. In that respect he is sort of like a LW version of Forrest Griffin.
i'd almost say he's a lightweight version of Nate Marquardt, good at most things but not amazing in anything.
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Old 12-09-2009, 12:34 PM   #32 (permalink)
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This is absolutely ridiculous. Diego is only good because of his pace? Or because he is mentally tough?

I suppose Anderson is only good because he hits hard and fast, oh and Lyoto because he's calculating, or GSP because he's strong... and they all use that, and that's why they are good right?

Give me a break, the arrogance around here is astounding. Diego is a very VERY skilled fighter who uses everything he has to his advantage. And so is BJ, this could be the fight of the year for that reason.

BJ is expected to be a douchebag, not everyone else has to be.
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Old 12-09-2009, 12:57 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I'm going to be a douchebag because it's true.

All the things Toxic said were true. Another thing to note too, from the Guida fight, Diego seemed to be slowing down considerably after expending so much energy in the first roudn bonanza. Getting taken down when normally he would defend it well. No one has seen Diego in a 5 rounder. Maybe his cardio isn't as great as everyone believes. They see a lunatic in the opening 1 and 1/2 - 2 rounds and think he runs on empty.

Also, was there a need for 2 very's when one of the very's was in caps?
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Old 12-09-2009, 01:18 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Im really at a stalmate for this match, but I got a feeling Diego will slip/leave himself open at the wrong time.

If you notice BJ has timing like Fedor and Machida...in a split second he will contort his body and put on a rear naked or catch your chin with a cross, from an angle you might not expect.

2009 has been a strange turning point in MMA, but I got a feeling Diego will get KO'ed
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Old 12-09-2009, 01:42 PM   #35 (permalink)
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here's the latest fightmetric on sanchez

http://fightmetric.com/fights/Sanchez-Guida.html

he seems pretty acurate with the head shots

here's what they had for penn

http://www.fightmetric.com/fights/Penn-Sherk.html
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Old 12-09-2009, 01:46 PM   #36 (permalink)
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here's the latest fightmetric on sanchez

http://fightmetric.com/fights/Sanchez-Guida.html

he seems pretty acurate with the head shots

here's what they had for penn

http://www.fightmetric.com/fights/Penn-Sherk.html
I was wondering where people were saying Diego had really inaccurate striking for that Guida fight. Although that site isn't 100 percent reliable, it is enough to prove that Diego isnt as inaccurate as people make out. He was tagging Guida over and over and his striking looked pretty sharp. He is definitely a decent striker.
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Old 12-09-2009, 03:29 PM   #37 (permalink)
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...He's beaten Jorge Santiago, Kenny Florian, Nick Diaz, Karo Parisyan, Joe Riggs, Joe Stevenson and Clay Guida just to name a few. That's an impressive list of guys to defeat right there...
no, no it isn't impressive.
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no, no it isn't impressive.

IMO BJ's loss against Lyoto Machida is more impressive than any fight that Diego has actually won.
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no, no it isn't impressive.
Not impressive compared with the names BJ's faced, but wins over Parisyan, Florian, Guida, Diaz and Stevenson are impressive victories, and contribute to a record that's certainly stronger than BJ's was before he got his first title shot; and a stronger resumé I believe than the one that Florian and Stevenson had before they got their title shots. I struggle to see how a 23-2 record isn't impressive, it's not like he's been fighting all can's in the UFC.

I'm not saying Sanchez will beat Penn, I don't believe he will, but I think he's getting pretty harshly criticised on here. I think he's a talented fighter that's going to push BJ Penn hard, challenge him in the stand-up and challenge him on the ground. This isn't going to be an easy fight for BJ Penn.
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Not impressive compared with the names BJ's faced, but wins over Parisyan, Florian, Guida, Diaz and Stevenson are impressive victories, and contribute to a record that's certainly stronger than BJ's was before he got his first title shot; and a stronger resumé I believe than the one that Florian and Stevenson had before they got their title shots. I struggle to see how a 23-2 record isn't impressive, it's not like he's been fighting all can's in the UFC.

I'm not saying Sanchez will beat Penn, I don't believe he will, but I think he's getting pretty harshly criticised on here. I think he's a talented fighter that's going to push BJ Penn hard, challenge him in the stand-up and challenge him on the ground. This isn't going to be an easy fight for BJ Penn.
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