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Old 12-08-2009, 11:54 PM   #11 (permalink)
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This is gonna be the first time I've ever rooted for Kongo...I can't wait to see Lesnar run through him again.
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Old 12-08-2009, 11:54 PM   #12 (permalink)
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[quote=khoveraki;1063612]I'd like to remind everyone that Kongo has never been submitted before. Also, he's submitted someone before and he's only had 2 split decisions and 1 UD losses in the UFC - the UD coming in a close fight that he did not have time to train for.



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Kongo has never fought anyone with Mir's submission skills either,, Mir is the fastest most innovative submission artist in the world with the exception to Damien Maia,and hell they train together,, ,I challenge anyone to argue that,,
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Neither has Kimbo and Houston Alexander has only 2 sub losses on his record so his BJJ cant be that bad. lol

Point being, it doesn't mean Kongo's GG is good.

I guess I don't understand this post? Having two sub losses is a pretty big deal compared to zero. And who said Kimbo is easy to submit? Nelson looked to struggle to sub him and he's training with ATT.



I'm just sayin', Kongo is no Tank Abbott and if this fight goes to the ground Mir isn't just going to get an instant sub.


Kongo also appeared to be the much, MUCH classier and mature fighter tonight and I can't wait for the match.


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Kongo has never fought anyone with Mir's submission skills either,, Mir is the fastest most innovative submission artist in the world with the exception to Damien Maia,and hell they train together,, ,I challenge anyone to argue that,,
Yeah but the last time Mir faced a Muay Thai striker, he got obliterated. And Vera is way smaller and not a world champ Thai Boxer like Kongo.
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I'd like to remind everyone that Kongo has never been submitted before. Also, he's submitted someone before and he's only had 2 split decisions and 1 UD losses in the UFC - the UD coming in a close fight that he did not have time to train for.



Coldcall: MIR IS AS GOOD OF A STRIKER AS KONGO? WHAT.

Is this because his jab-cross-uppercut (repeat, repeat, repeat) impressed you against an injured Nog?

Or I guess you're not impressed with Kongo's World Muay Thai championships?

I love how you post a thread without a position, then disect the first opinion someone offers like you have a crystal ball there....

Actually Mir's standup has improved and is on Par with Kongo's....if you have watched Mir for several yr's I would assume you would know that....nothing to do with Nog, frankly no...I'm not impressed with Kongo's world class Muay Thai skills....

Im not gonna go in circles so if you think im wrong and your right....

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Old 12-09-2009, 12:00 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I love how you post a thread without a position, then disect the first opinion someone offers like you have a crystal ball there....

Actually Mir's standup has improved and is on Par with Kongo's....if you have watched Mir for several yr's I would assume you would know that....nothing to do with Nog, frankly no...I'm not impressed with Kongo's world class Muay Thai skills....

Im not gonna go in circles so if you think im wrong and your right....

We can just sig bet right now?????

Yes or No????


Deal, if Mir outstrikes Kongo I will write ANYTHING in my sig.

But if Kongo predictably outstrikes Mir I get to write anything in your sig.



And you like how I start a thread without a position and then get an opinion? What do you mean? I have an opinion on the matter (that a world champ Muay Thai striker is better than Mir at striking), I can't believe anyone in the world would think Mir has better boxing.

And I have been watching Mir since the Abbott fight - his striking has improved sure. But it's still some of the worst at HW.
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Yeah but the last time Mir faced a Muay Thai striker, he got obliterated. And Vera is way smaller and not a world champ Thai Boxer like Kongo.
And Mir was fat and wasn't emotionally sure in that fight,, now he has got everything back on track and he looked good and big tonight, muscle big and healthy,,, and there is just something is Mirs eye , he is focused and vengeful,, I really think he is going to break something on Kongo,, really,
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And Mir was fat and wasn't emotionally sure in that fight,, now he has got everything back on track and he looked good and big tonight, muscle big and healthy,,, and there is just something is Mirs eye , he is focused and vengeful,, I really think he is going to break something on Kongo,, really,
Like how big and focused he was at UFC100?
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I love how you post a thread without a position, then disect the first opinion someone offers like you have a crystal ball there....

Actually Mir's standup has improved and is on Par with Kongo's....if you have watched Mir for several yr's I would assume you would know that....nothing to do with Nog, frankly no...I'm not impressed with Kongo's world class Muay Thai skills....

Im not gonna go in circles so if you think im wrong and your right....

We can just sig bet right now?????

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Deal, if Mir outstrikes Kongo I will write ANYTHING in my sig.

But if Kongo predictably outstrikes Mir I get to write anything in your sig.



And you like how I start a thread without a position and then get an opinion? What do you mean? I have an opinion on the matter (that a world champ Muay Thai striker is better than Mir at striking), I can't believe anyone in the world would think Mir has better boxing.

And I have been watching Mir since the Abbott fight - his striking has improved sure. But it's still some of the worst at HW.
I'm talking whoever wins and you know this, not who "oustrikes" the other...we would then need to debate that for days....

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Old 12-09-2009, 12:14 AM   #20 (permalink)
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I guess I don't understand this post? Having two sub losses is a pretty big deal compared to zero. And who said Kimbo is easy to submit? Nelson looked to struggle to sub him and he's training with ATT.

I'm just sayin', Kongo is no Tank Abbott and if this fight goes to the ground Mir isn't just going to get an instant sub.

Kongo also appeared to be the much, MUCH classier and mature fighter tonight and I can't wait for the match.
Your whole post and argument lost credibility right there. Kimbo is a scrub on the ground man, the only reason Nelson didnt sub him is because he didnt try. Plain and simple.

Kongo doesnt have to be a 'Tank Abbott' to be subbed by Mir, and not because he's never been subbed in his career so far that a very good BJJ guy couldn't sub him. His GG is below average while Mir's very good.

I dont think Mir would get an 'instant sub' but if it goes to the ground Cheick's in trouble, whether he be on top or on the bottom.

You seem to be the only person here to argue over that tbh.
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