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Old 12-09-2009, 01:37 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Its not gonna get overturned and just makes Jones look like a whiny bitch IMO. The first time a replay was used to decide a fight, I don't care if the Maz was in the wrong (I don't think he was) the athletic commision is gonna back him like hell because overturning it questions the legitimacy of instant replay.
How does it make him look like a whiny bitch?? He handled it perfectly right after the fight and in the interviews, if he really wanted to complain about the loss he would do it right after the decision in the octagon.

This decision was most likely made by his management or the people around him.
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Old 12-09-2009, 09:14 PM   #22 (permalink)
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The article says that it was his management's decision and not his. He has taken the loss in stride. I believe that it's a legitimate complain and his management has the right to file. They wouldn't be doing their job (which is looking after Bones's interest) if they didn't.
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The article says that it was his management's decision and not his. He has taken the loss in stride. I believe that it's a legitimate complain and his management has the right to file. They wouldn't be doing their job (which is looking after Bones's interest) if they didn't.
No harm in trying I guess.
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Old 12-09-2009, 10:10 PM   #24 (permalink)
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if i were matt hamill i'd rather have the nc rather than a win for a fight i was dominated in anyways
What? It's a win, no matter how you look at his record. It's not his fault Jones threw an illegal elbow.
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Old 12-09-2009, 10:11 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Its not gonna get overturned and just makes Jones look like a whiny bitch IMO. The first time a replay was used to decide a fight, I don't care if the Maz was in the wrong (I don't think he was) the athletic commision is gonna back him like hell because overturning it questions the legitimacy of instant replay.
How does it make him look a whiny bitch? Didn't he come out after the fight and see he made a mistake and would accept the loss?

And anyway, he clearly beat the **** out of Hamil and I'd be pissed off if I had that loss on my record too.

In nearly every other situation he would have had a point docked, but because Hamil was so utterly beaten and battered on the floor he couldn't get up they had to stop the fight and you'd only be kidding yourself if you think those elbows made much of a difference in that, what can only be described as a total mauling.
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How does it make him look a whiny bitch? Didn't he come out after the fight and see he made a mistake and would accept the loss?

And anyway, he clearly beat the **** out of Hamil and I'd be pissed off if I had that loss on my record too.

In nearly every other situation he would have had a point docked, but because Hamil was so utterly beaten and battered on the floor he couldn't get up they had to stop the fight and you'd only be kidding yourself if you think those elbows made much of a difference in that, what can only be described as a total mauling.
It ultimately doesn't matter whether they were effective or not, they were illegal.
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It ultimately doesn't matter whether they were effective or not, they were illegal.
So is a low blow or eye gouging, ever see somebody given the win when that happens to them?

He should have had a point deducted, anybody can see they were hardly the cause of Hamil not being able to get up. He lost the fight fair and square really.

I could understand a no contest decision though, but a win for Hamil? It's just complete lunacy.
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So is a low blow or eye gouging, ever see somebody given the win when that happens to them?

He should have had a point deducted, anybody can see they were hardly the cause of Hamil not being able to get up. He lost the fight fair and square really.

I could understand a no contest decision though, but a win for Hamil? It's just complete lunacy.
No, a low blow or eye gouge is accidental. Jones illegal strikes were completely intentional.
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No, a low blow or eye gouge is accidental. Jones illegal strikes were completely intentional.
It wasn't his intention to foul somebody. I know ignorance isn't an excuse but that's how it was.

And there are lots of intentional low blows and especially eye gouges/pokes, it's just easy to pass off as being unintentional.
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I'm seeing a lot of comments that if the cut wasn't the reason why the fight was ended, then it was the shoulder. That could be true but what you people don't seem to be seeing as a factor is that the elbow hit him in the head. Whether it cut him or not, he could still have been dazed/rocked to the point where he couldn't continue. To imply the elbow ONLY caused a cut is ridiculously stupid. The illegal elbow was by far the most damaging thing he landed all night.

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