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Old 12-31-2006, 01:03 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Arlovski wins on a cheap shot. De pano should have been prepared but I would hate to lose due in that fashion

F that, he had a chance to stand up.. HE SAID NO, he wanted to stay on the ground he should have been ready
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Old 12-31-2006, 01:05 AM   #12 (permalink)
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FIRST OF ALL HERB DEAN SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO REF ANOUTHER BOUT PERIOD!

THIS LAST FIGHT GOES TO SHOW HE'S NOT WORTH HIS SALT IN HIS SOUP.

FIRST OFF ,AFTER THE ILLEAGLE KICK TO THE HEAD BY ARLOVSKI FROM THE GROUND(A SEVERE NO NO )HERB WANTED TO STAND THEM UP WHERE ARLOVSKI CLEARLY HAS THE ADVANTAGE.

THE FIGHTER KNOWS BETTER AND TELLS HERB TO GO PACKING AND THEN DECIDES TO LET THEM CONTINUE FROM THE GROUND WHERE ARLOVSKI LANDS A STRIKE THEN CONTINUES TO USE THE FENCE AS LEVERAGE AND BALANCE TO FINISH THE FIGHT WHILE HERB STANDS THERE CLUELESS !

THIS GUY IS DANGEROUS AND HAS TO GO. THIS IS ONE EXAMPLE OF MANY THAT DEAN HAS LET THE FIGHTER DOWN..SUCKS.
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Old 12-31-2006, 01:08 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Pe De Pano made the choice to stay on the ground. He was the one kicked in the face (which barely connected), and Herb gave him the choice to stand up or stay on the ground. It was completely decided by Cruz, and in no way should Herb Dean be blamed for that. That's just as ridiculous as typing in all capitals, in blue font, no less.
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Old 12-31-2006, 01:15 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Look...

Arlovski attempted that kick, but it didn't land. It barely even grazed Cruz if anything. Pe De Pano even pleaded to Dean that he was fine. After Herb warned Arlovski, and made sure Pe De Pano was alright, he should have instantly stepped away instead of standing there. Cruz chose to stay on the ground. As soon as he did FINALLY step away, Arlovski waited for about 5-7 seconds...and hit Marcio with a BOMB. After that shot, Cruz rolled a bit...but he was done. Arlovski rained down with shots to the ear and right above the ear. I'll admit Andrei hit Cruz with a couple small hammer fists to the back of the head...but they weren't heavy or damaging. The rest of those shots were to the side of the head by the ear - which isn't illegal. Pe De Pano was already done anyway.

Oh, and about the cage grabbing...everyone does it with instinct. If it was such a big deal anyway, Herb would have said something, but he was busy trying to protect Cruz's head...so it's irrelevant that his was on the fence at that point.
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her still missed the fence holding. he held on to that fence a good 10 seconds or more
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Old 12-31-2006, 01:18 AM   #16 (permalink)
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it's still illegal. they can't slack off with rules like that. that's how the sport will gain a negative reputation.
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Arlovski attempted that kick, but it didn't land. It barely even grazed Cruz if anything. Pe De Pano even pleaded to Dean that he was fine. After Herb warned Arlovski, and made sure Pe De Pano was alright, he should have instantly stepped away instead of standing there. Cruz chose to stay on the ground. As soon as he did FINALLY step away, Arlovski waited for about 5-7 seconds...and hit Marcio with a BOMB. After that shot, Cruz rolled a bit...but he was done. Arlovski rained down with shots to the ear and right above the ear. I'll admit Andrei hit Cruz with a couple small hammer fists to the back of the head...but they weren't heavy or damaging. The rest of those shots were to the side of the head by the ear - which isn't illegal. Pe De Pano was already done anyway.

Oh, and about the cage grabbing...everyone does it with instinct. If it was such a big deal anyway, Herb would have said something, but he was busy trying to protect Cruz's head...so it's irrelevant that his was on the fence at that point.
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By the way, that kick that Andre threw, just goes to show how dumb the rules are against kicking while one the ground.
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Damn I didn't even notice he was grabbing the fence. Fence grabbers suck. Did it affect the outcome of the fight? If it did, then I agree that is totally f*cked up. I hate when people grab the fence. Just because it is instinct doesn't make it right. A lot of fighters go the whole fight not grabbing the fence so it's not impossible.

My motto is if you can't stop yourself from grabbing the fence then you shouldn't be allowed to fight in an organization that doesn't allow fence grabbing. Plain and simple. It's not fair to the fighters who actually do follow the rules. I wanted Arlovski to win but Cruz could have just as easily grabbed the fence himself and avoided a TKO loss but he didn't. If he had, people would be going nuts.

I have always thought that the perfect punishment for fence grabbers is that they have to change their nickname to "The Fence Grabber" for at least one PPV. And all the commentator's must refer to him as "The Fence Grabber" for the entire event. Maybe even overdo it a little to add to the humiliation.

All that being said, I didn't see anything cheap about the punch. There was plenty of time between Herb telling them to continue and the actual punch.

The punch wasn't cheap but fence grabbing totally is.

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Wow, another ignorant thread on the lines of soem conspiracy crap. Why are there so many new members posting stupid comments tonight. I really like the Herb Dean has to go post. That is funny as hell. that poster needs a brain.

Arlovski won and there was no other way around it. Quit whining because he beat the guys ass.
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Wow, another ignorant thread on the lines of soem conspiracy crap. Why are there so many new members posting stupid comments tonight. I really like the Herb Dean has to go post. That is funny as hell. that poster needs a brain.

Arlovski won and there was no other way around it. Quit whining because he beat the guys ass.

exactly, and he won ON THE GROUND
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