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post #371 of 399 (permalink) Old 08-08-2010, 07:50 PM
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And yet he has the wrestling and submission defence to grind out a dominant decision victory.

I'd take it. And man, would I ever rub it in your face.
Yes but does he have the size to do it. GSP has never submitted a legit Jujitsu fighter. I`m not debating his wrestling is there but he is facing a freak of a fighter who has the size advantage. Question who is the better overall fighter (would use a question mark but it don`t work)
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After Sonnen-Silva, it seems as GSP already beat Silva, doesn't it?
SOme said the blueprint to beating SIlva has been exposed.
Correction: the blueprint already existed imo. Dan Henderson showed us the path in the first rd against Silva. Too bad for him he couldn't continue after.
I have to admit, a lot of times, when i was watching Sonnen last night, it was like i was watching GSP: great takedowns, great control on the ground, excellent GnP. Many could argue Sonnen's GnP is better. Maybe they're right. But the resemblances between them are amazing when it comes to wrestling and the fight on the ground.
It all stops when it comes to the grappling part of fighting on the ground. GSP's grappling is 10 times better than Sonnen.
And if he fights Silva atm i think he could take it. Just by doing what Chael did last night. I don't think Silva could sub GSP from the bottom. For me that is out of the question.
A year ago thw weight issue could have been a problem, but right now even if Silva would be 10 lbs heavier by fight night, i still don't hink he could stop GSp's takedowns and ground control. GSP has superior strength and i yhink he would take a decision victory, like Chael should have.

Too bad the fight seems to be so far away atm.

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Yes but does he have the size to do it. GSP has never submitted a legit Jujitsu fighter. I`m not debating his wrestling is there but he is facing a freak of a fighter who has the size advantage. Question who is the better overall fighter (would use a question mark but it don`t work)
I didn't say he would sub him. I said he would pull off a decision. As big a fan as I am, I don't believe GSP could KO Anderson, or even submit him. Though I fully believe he could pull a Chael Sonnen, only win. As I said, I'd take it. And whilst Anderson may be a 'freak of a fighter' on his feet, he isn't that special off of his back it would seem. Let's not pretend he didn't lose 98% of that fight, and let's not fool ourselves into thinking he's the only man to ever throw up a triangle. Hell, Tito Ortiz almost pulled off what Anderson did, yet I don't see anyone championing him as pound for pound. Anderson toughed it out and won. I give him all of the credit in the world. That said, there is nothing awe inspiring about what he did last night, and we can't delude ourselves into believing there is, fan or not.

GSP doesn't have to be bigger than Silva to take him down. He just has to be stronger. As most will tell you, size and strength don't always correlate. As for who is the better fighter... again, this isn't a black and white issue. GSP is to wrestling and top control what Anderson is to striking. How do we say Anderson is the superior fighter when GSP could likely nullify him and cruise to victory if and when the fight were to hit the ground? The same can be said in reverse... it's not so easy to claim that GSP is superior given we know what Anderson can do on the feet. If we really think about things, the alleged 'weak points' of these two (not that I believe GSP has a weak stand up game... it's actually quite good) are the apparent strong points of the other. Anything we say about who can do what to who on some internet forum is nothing but pure speculation which often pits fan against fan, thus rendering it void of all logic. To crown a true P4P Champion, and to decide who truly is the better fighter... these two would actually have to fight. I'm afraid a poll on MMA Forums simply isn't sufficient to answer such a multi-layered question.

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Sonnen showed the blueprint for how GSP would beat Anderson.

There is only one way to find out if GSP can get it done.

A superfight is still 2-3 fights away. GSP has to get by Kos and Shields; Anderson is going to have to get by Belfort and a rematch with Chael.
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I didn't say he would sub him. I said he would pull off a decision. As big a fan as I am, I don't believe GSP could KO Anderson, or even submit him. Though I fully believe he could pull a Chael Sonnen, only win. As I said, I'd take it. And whilst Anderson may be a 'freak of a fighter' on his feet, he isn't that special off of his back it would seem. Let's not pretend he didn't lose 98% of that fight, and let's not fool ourselves into thinking he's the only man to ever throw up a triangle. Hell, Tito Ortiz almost pulled off what Anderson did, yet I don't see anyone championing him as pound for pound. Anderson toughed it out and won. I give him all of the credit in the world. That said, there is nothing awe inspiring about what he did last night, and we can't delude ourselves into believing there is, fan or not.

GSP doesn't have to be bigger than Silva to take him down. He just has to be stronger. As most will tell you, size and strength don't always correlate. As for who is the better fighter... again, this isn't a black and white issue. GSP is to wrestling and top control what Anderson is to striking. How do we say Anderson is the superior fighter when GSP could likely nullify him and cruise to victory if and when the fight were to hit the ground? The same can be said in reverse... it's not so easy to claim that GSP is superior given we know what Anderson can do on the feet. If we really think about things, the alleged 'weak points' of these two (not that I believe GSP has a weak stand up game... it's actually quite good) are the apparent strong points of the other. Anything we say about who can do what to who on some internet forum is nothing but pure speculation which often pits fan against fan, thus rendering it void of all logic. To crown a true P4P Champion, and to decide who truly is the better fighter... these two would actually have to fight. I'm afraid a poll on MMA Forums simply isn't sufficient to answer such a multi-layered question.
Amen, lol it would be useless to continue this debate. We will continue this when these two actually fight. Because in the mma game ever fighter reacts to the other fighter differently.
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I didn't say he would sub him. I said he would pull off a decision. As big a fan as I am, I don't believe GSP could KO Anderson, or even submit him. Though I fully believe he could pull a Chael Sonnen, only win. As I said, I'd take it. And whilst Anderson may be a 'freak of a fighter' on his feet, he isn't that special off of his back it would seem. Let's not pretend he didn't lose 98% of that fight, and let's not fool ourselves into thinking he's the only man to ever throw up a triangle. Hell, Tito Ortiz almost pulled off what Anderson did, yet I don't see anyone championing him as pound for pound. Anderson toughed it out and won. I give him all of the credit in the world. That said, there is nothing awe inspiring about what he did last night, and we can't delude ourselves into believing there is, fan or not.

GSP doesn't have to be bigger than Silva to take him down. He just has to be stronger. As most will tell you, size and strength don't always correlate. As for who is the better fighter... again, this isn't a black and white issue. GSP is to wrestling and top control what Anderson is to striking. How do we say Anderson is the superior fighter when GSP could likely nullify him and cruise to victory if and when the fight were to hit the ground? The same can be said in reverse... it's not so easy to claim that GSP is superior given we know what Anderson can do on the feet. If we really think about things, the alleged 'weak points' of these two (not that I believe GSP has a weak stand up game... it's actually quite good) are the apparent strong points of the other. Anything we say about who can do what to who on some internet forum is nothing but pure speculation which often pits fan against fan, thus rendering it void of all logic. To crown a true P4P Champion, and to decide who truly is the better fighter... these two would actually have to fight. I'm afraid a poll on MMA Forums simply isn't sufficient to answer such a multi-layered question.

I like your arguments!
I also agree: size wouldn't be such a big disadvantage for GSP imo. I consider him more powerful than Silva, anyday.
GSP wouldn't have to be the better grappler or striker if he would fight Silva. Wreslting + control and hos sub defense would do it imo.
Shme the fight isn't happening.

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GSP vs. Silva - has your opinion changed?

Before 117 most people thought Silva would beat GSP. I'd estimate at least 2/3, maybe 3/4 were picking Silva.

Does the way Sonnen manhandled Silva on Saturday change your mind? It changed mine. I would have picked GSP to lose to Silva before, despite being a huge GSP fan just because I thought the size difference was too much advantage for Silva. After seeing how easily Sonnen controlled Silva I can't help but think GSP would be able to do the same and not get caught in the triangle at the end.

My opinion might change depending on how severely Silva was injured at 117 if he was in fact hurt going in.
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Well it has changed in that fact that I had GSP winning in a toss up fight, now I can see him dominate the spider.

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I agree. I still think Silva can do a lot better than that against Sonnen, but it definately changes my opinion.

I'm also a huge GSP nuthugger, who gave GSP very little chance against Silva, but now I seriously want to see this fight, I think GSP has a much better chance than I did before. I still think Silva is a favorite, but now I think it's more like 60-40, instead of 90-10, 80-20. I think GSP has a very legitimate chance at beating him.

I. want. to. see. this. fight.
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I was one of the guys that said GSP woulld beat the spider and the chael fight further proves my point. Jon jones would also comfortably beat, probably TKO the spider too.
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