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Old 12-12-2009, 06:32 PM   #11 (permalink)
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1. The only time BJ Penn has ever faced someone with intensity similar to Diego, he lost. Georges St. Pierre destroyed him. Look for Diego Sanchez to have a similar gameplan.
Intensity doesn't really have much to do with it. Its null and void. Not to mention GSP is in the top 3 p4p in the world, Diego is not and probably never will be.

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2. Better standup - Don't hate, its true. BJ Penn has good standup, I'm not neglecting that, but I don't think it is as good as Diego's. He does not have as much power in his punches, and isn't as quick. Diego Sanchez throws FAST. If this fight stays standing, BJ Penn will lose.
Diego is a more diverse striker, but I think BJ definitely hits harder and throws the more accurate punches. BJ wrecked Stevenson on the feet with ease, while Diego couldn't even finish him. Penn turned GSP's face into mince meat in one round. I would pick BJ in the striking war. Diego is just a flashy brawler.

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3. Better wrestling - BJ Penn has world class BJJ, but his wrestling ability is not as good as Diego's either. The Nightmare has very good wrestling, and I understand he was outwrestled by Jon Fitch and Koscheck, but that was at 170 and has nothing to do with BJ Penn. Since stepping down to LW, Diego looks like a different fighter.
We're talking about the guy that Hughes, a top of the game wrestler couldn't keep down. We're talking about a guy that Couture couldn't keep down. Diego has never faced someone with as good TDD and dangerous bottom game as Penn. Penn's crazy flexibility and toughness on the ground will be enough to neutralization or submit Diego.

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4. More heart - This is based on opinion only, but I have the right to my own opinion and it's just how I feel about the matter. Diego has expressed time and time again how badly he wants this win, and all BJ Penn can talk about is how he loves to fight. It's almost as if Diego Sanchez lives and breathes because of fighting, and BJ Penn does it for fun. I'm not saying doing it for fun is a bad thing either, I'm simply just comparing the two and basing my opinion on it.
Yeah thats fine.

[QOUTE]5. Defense - Diego Sanchez has very good defense. To my knowledge he has never been finished in a fight. And you will say that he has never faced an opponent with the level of BJJ like he will against Penn, but HE HAS! If you can remember correctly, he faced Nick Diaz on TUF finale and WON THE FIGHT. Nick Diaz is on the SAME LEVEL as BJ Penn when it comes to submissions, you're ignorant if you disagree. [/quote]

HAHAHAHAHAH. First off, Diaz is a piece of shit. BJ is a superior BJJ practitioner and Nick Diaz has never beaten anyone of value, minus Frank. Diaz has nothing to offer against the best in the world, while BJ has fought Hughes, GSP, Machida.

Diego is a tough kid, but hes just not on that level yet.
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Old 12-12-2009, 06:33 PM   #12 (permalink)
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i think BJ has the ability to create more damage to diego than the other way around and ultimatly unless something weird happens this will tell the tale of the fight.

Diego could win, he has a better chance than florian but he will have to be 100% on and BJ will need to be 50% off for him to win.
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Im in a completely different timezone, but isn't the fight over anytime soon?
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1. The only time BJ Penn has ever faced someone with intensity similar to Diego, he lost. Georges St. Pierre destroyed him. Look for Diego Sanchez to have a similar gameplan.
Look for Deigo to be unable to do anything similiar to GSP because of the fact he is not as big, not as strong and is nowhere near the caliber of wrestler or grappler that GSP is.
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2. Better standup - Don't hate, its true. BJ Penn has good standup, I'm not neglecting that, but I don't think it is as good as Diego's. He does not have as much power in his punches, and isn't as quick. Diego Sanchez throws FAST. If this fight stays standing, BJ Penn will lose.
Are you kidding? BJ is one of the 5 most accurate strikers in the UFC, probably has the best boxing bar none and your saying a guy that leaves his chin wide open and misses over 50% of his strikes has better stand up?

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3. Better wrestling - BJ Penn has world class BJJ, but his wrestling ability is not as good as Diego's either. The Nightmare has very good wrestling, and I understand he was outwrestled by Jon Fitch and Koscheck, but that was at 170 and has nothing to do with BJ Penn. Since stepping down to LW, Diego looks like a different fighter.
Diego has never beat anybody with decent wrestling, out of 100TD attempts BJ sprawls 100, Sanchez's TD's are average at best against the UFC's best TD defense, on the other hand you have Sanchez's average TD defense (Guida took him down multiple simes and Guida has excellent top control not awesome TD's) and the fact that BJ has almost always been able to dictate the fight, is he wants to take Deigo down he will, if he wants to stand they will.
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4. More heart - This is based on opinion only, but I have the right to my own opinion and it's just how I feel about the matter. Diego has expressed time and time again how badly he wants this win, and all BJ Penn can talk about is how he loves to fight. It's almost as if Diego Sanchez lives and breathes because of fighting, and BJ Penn does it for fun. I'm not saying doing it for fun is a bad thing either, I'm simply just comparing the two and basing my opinion on it.
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5. Defense - Diego Sanchez has very good defense. To my knowledge he has never been finished in a fight. And you will say that he has never faced an opponent with the level of BJJ like he will against Penn, but HE HAS! If you can remember correctly, he faced Nick Diaz on TUF finale and WON THE FIGHT. Nick Diaz is on the SAME LEVEL as BJ Penn when it comes to submissions, you're ignorant if you disagree.
If you think the Nick Diaz that fought Diego is anywhere near as good a fighter your dreaming, the Diaz that Deigo beat also lost to Sherk and Joe Riggs. BJ is so much more well rounded and dangerous that Nick Diaz its really not even funny,

Diego has never beaten a wrestler as good as BJ, never beat a grappler as good as BJ, never beaten a BJJ guy as good as BJ and never beaten a striker of BJ's caliber, Diego has cardio, well so did Sherk, wasn't enough. Bottom line is Diego brings nothing Penn hasn't already beaten somebody better at, BJ will be the best Deigo has ever faced in almost every facet of MMA, sorry but your boy has not chance.
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Everyone BJ has faced is always his "biggest challenge." BJ has jits that ensures no one will ever submit him, the hardest chin in MMA, and now he's 100% dedicated to his conditioning. The 155lb weightclass isn't strong enough right now to threaten Penn, including Diego.


Watch him struggle with Guida's groundgame and how sloppy his striking was in that fight. I usually agree with ya Stokes but there's no way Sanchez takes this fight - he simply is the only guy Penn hasn't beaten yet. It's like pretending Hardy has a chance at GSP.
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1. Intensity

Intensity doesnt win a fight.
If It did then Guida would be undefeated and Fedor would be winless

2. Better standup

Sorry, but thats just wrong! BJ has the best hands In the 155 division. His jab and head movement Is fantastic!

3. Better wrestling

I think you're wrong again. But this fight wont go to the ground unless BJ wants It to. BJ has the best TDD out there, and Diego Is no GSP.

4. More heart

I dunno, maybe.. ! Atleast I think Diego wants It more.


5. Defense
Come on now, BJ would submit both Diaz brothers at the same time If he wanted to.


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Old 12-12-2009, 07:05 PM   #17 (permalink)
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To OP, I haven't laughed this hard at a post in ages. From the mmath to comparing Sanchez' intensity to GSPs wrestling. Have to rep you.

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....you're ignorant if you disagree.
That seems in keeping with the concept of a public forum. Hilarious post dude.
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I beat on diego because of the odds being offered, it will be a diegos hardest fight yet by far. Hope he can pull it off.
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Here is my top five reason.

1-Armband Tattoo
It's not barb wire but is is tribal

2-Mean Faces
Worked in preschool, why not the UFC

3-His name is Diego.
Just like the city he currently resides. Apparently he uses that coincidence to pick up girls also

4-His nickname is Nightmare!!
That is just plane scarier that "Prodigy"

5-Yes cartwheel
Exercise and self affirmation, sounds like the winner to me
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Here is my top five reason.

1-Armband Tattoo
It's not barb wire but is is tribal

2-Mean Faces
Worked in preschool, why not the UFC

3-His name is Diego.
Just like the city he currently resides. Apparently he uses that coincidence to pick up girls also

4-His nickname is Nightmare!!
That is just plane scarier that "Prodigy"

5-Yes cartwheel
Exercise and self affirmation, sounds like the winner to me

Why couldn't you have posted this BEFORE I placed my bet on BJ?!
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