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post #61 of 109 (permalink) Old 12-17-2009, 02:18 AM
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So what? It's a title fight and it shouldn't just be based on who's got time that night. In my opinion Mir moved down the pecking order after the loss against Brock and is pretty much the last person to deserve another title match. He looked great in his rebound fight, but a single win over a guy who is also coming off a loss shouldn't earn you a title match.
It's not a title fight, its the interim title fight, big difference. I respectfully disagree with on Mir moving far down the pecking order after the loss to Brock. Who has Carwin REALLY fought for him to deserve the shot? Ten cans and GG? For that matter, the same argument is used in reference to Brock, who did he beat before he got a shot? He beat Herring and LOST to Mir. IMO, all of the HW's could either benefit or be hurt by this same argument, its all semantics.
I really don't think the UFC is going to change the scheduled matchups to fit into an interim title bout, while those very matches also help set up future bouts, either with the interim champ or when Brock returns. Like I said before, this match makes perfect sense and Mir has more than proved his place at the top of the division.

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Sounds like it is close to finalized.

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It's not a title fight, its the interim title fight, big difference. I respectfully disagree with on Mir moving far down the pecking order after the loss to Brock. Who has Carwin REALLY fought for him to deserve the shot? Ten cans and GG? For that matter, the same argument is used in reference to Brock, who did he beat before he got a shot? He beat Herring and LOST to Mir. IMO, all of the HW's could either benefit or be hurt by this same argument, its all semantics.
I really don't think the UFC is going to change the scheduled matchups to fit into an interim title bout, while those very matches also help set up future bouts, either with the interim champ or when Brock returns. Like I said before, this match makes perfect sense and Mir has more than proved his place at the top of the division.

The UFC also gave Anderson Silva a title shot after beating only Chris Leben in the UFC.

I am tired of seeing Mir getting shots though. I want someone new. Other people are in the mix too. Nog, Cain, JDS is quickly moving up the ladder.


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The UFC also gave Anderson Silva a title shot after beating only Chris Leben in the UFC.

I am tired of seeing Mir getting shots though. I want someone new. Other people are in the mix too. Nog, Cain, JDS is quickly moving up the ladder.
Nog Cain and JDS are already signed for fights. Carwin was, but brock dropped out and he needs to fight. Mir just dominated his last fight, if carwin cant beat mir, who says he can beat brock? Mir already beat nog, so if Cain cant get past him, does he really deserve a shot? Nothing to say about JDS, but I think he needs 1 or 2 more fights before a shot.

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Nog Cain and JDS are already signed for fights. Carwin was, but brock dropped out and he needs to fight. Mir just dominated his last fight, if carwin cant beat mir, who says he can beat brock? Mir already beat nog, so if Cain cant get past him, does he really deserve a shot? Nothing to say about JDS, but I think he needs 1 or 2 more fights before a shot.
If Cain can't beat Nog, it doesn't mean that Mir wins for sure. That MMA math doesn't work. That how people figured out that Emerson was...erm... is better than Fedor.

I agree that JDS needs another fight. But all the interim title represents is the #1 contender. Just because people are booked doesn't mean they should rush it. They can wait for an interim title. I think that Cain deserves it more than Mir right now to be honest.


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With this fight looking to be coming to fruition it must mean that they do believe there will be time for another fight after this one before Brock is healthy.

I expect the winner of Nogeuira vs Cain to fight the winner of Carwin vs Mir and then Lesnar will face the winner of that to get rid of the interim belt.
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I agree that JDS needs another fight. But all the interim title represents is the #1 contender. Just because people are booked doesn't mean they should rush it. They can wait for an interim title. I think that Cain deserves it more than Mir right now to be honest.
I understand that mmath is tricky at best..I don't necessarily mean that mir could beat cain if cain cant beat nog, but if cain doesnt get past him I don't think he deserves a shot. If he wins though then im all for it, and imo he can fight the winner of mir/carwin for the interim belt before brock comes back anyways. If he loses, then Nog gets the winner for the same deal, really I think its a good thing, as long as the interim belt doesnt change hands like 3 times before brock comes back

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Hmmm mir and carwin are both beyond contempt! All of a sudden

Mir thinks lesnar isnt as good as Carwin and carwin says vice versa.... To think just a couple of months ago I hated lesnar!

Like i said before these guys should take a break after pleasuring each other.

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If he wants to leave the division, leave the sport, who cares, Beat it, nobody tunes in to watch him anyways, and his little fake I dont speak English.
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i'd put JDS over Cain and even Carwin, he's just less marketable.



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Carwin has top notch wrestling ?

Since when ?
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