Reffing - MMA Forum - UFC Forums - UFC Results - MMA Videos
UFC The Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) is a U.S.-based mixed martial arts organization, recognized as the largest MMA promotion in the world. The UFC is headquartered in Las Vegas, Nevada and is owned and operated by Zuffa, LLC. This promotion is responsible for solidifying the sport's postion in the history-books. UFC is currently undergoing a remarkable surge in popularity, along with greater mainstream media coverage. UFC programming can now be seen on FOX, FX, and FUEL TV in the United States, as well as in 35 other countries worldwide.

View Poll Results: Is it time for Herb to go?
Yes 6 40.00%
No 9 60.00%
Voters: 15. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 12-31-2006, 09:09 PM Thread Starter
Bantamweight
 
CashKola's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Michigan
Posts: 510
                     
Reffing

First off I don't think anything was stopped too early, but what the hell is going on with some of this reffing.

When I saw Mario Yamasaki in the Ortiz vs Liddell fight I thought, oh shit wheres Big John. Not that I do not like Mario, but why didn't they have the best ref they had in for the main event? Which is also a title fight. And you didn't get the great "Lets get it on!" from Mario. I just think you need Big John for the main event, anyone else agree?

And what the hell goes on in Herb Dean's head? After Andrei kicked Cruz wile he was on the ground Herb tried to stand them up. What was he thinking? The striker violates the rules, so he is going to punish the grappler and stand them up, just doesn't make sense to me.

Herb is a pretty good ref, but whenever I see him I get a little nervous. I always think he is going to mess something up. He seems to do it quite often. Sometimes I think it may be time for him to go.

"Everybody underestimates the kick in the groin." - Bas Rutten

Last edited by CashKola; 01-01-2007 at 10:16 AM.
CashKola is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 12 (permalink) Old 12-31-2006, 09:13 PM
Banned
 
AtomDanger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: NOwhere
Posts: 2,317
   
Yeah I think it was a bad night all together for reffing. Herb has done a few things that make me scratch my head. The NSGC picks who refs dont they? John did two other fights that night. Or maybe they are just getting other guys used to the big fights so when Johny retires they don't all freak out.
AtomDanger is offline  
post #3 of 12 (permalink) Old 12-31-2006, 09:35 PM
Flyweight
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 302
 
I'm pretty sure it was Mario Yamasaki in the Tito/Liddell match... but yeah, pretty bad reffing from UFC, Pride, and K-1 last night.
samurice is offline  
post #4 of 12 (permalink) Old 12-31-2006, 09:37 PM
MMA Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 3
 
I heard the nsgc wanted to use there own ref for the main event. dont know why. ya herb sucks
ilovemma is offline  
post #5 of 12 (permalink) Old 12-31-2006, 09:50 PM
Super Heavyweight
 
Stapler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,156
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by samurice
I'm pretty sure it was Mario Yamasaki in the Tito/Liddell match... but yeah, pretty bad reffing from UFC, Pride, and K-1 last night.
Yeah it was Mario Yamasaki...

Herb Dean isn't so bad in my opinion, just needs to take some......referee training and reread the rules then he will be all set. :P

Psalm 30:5 "For his anger endureth but a moment; in his favour is life: weeping may endure for a night, but joy cometh in the morning."

Top 3 Favorite Fighters
1. Chuck "The Iceman" Liddell
2. Glover Teixeira
3. Demian Maia
Stapler is offline  
post #6 of 12 (permalink) Old 12-31-2006, 10:42 PM
Welterweight
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Toronto, ON
Posts: 2,449
                     
Yeah, I didn't understand why Steve Mazzagatti kept separating Macdonald and Leben when they were in the clinch.

Yeah, I know the commentators said that it was because Leban had his hands in Macdonald's eyes, but he did it so many times. MacDonald was definitely trying hard to take Leben down.
Rated is offline  
post #7 of 12 (permalink) Old 01-01-2007, 12:03 AM
Flyweight
 
speedythief's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Kingston, Ontario
Posts: 457
 
When Herb didn't stand them up and then didn't give them a clear sign of when to restart on the ground I thought it was just a mixup. Arlovski basically got a free shot but it was as much Cruz's fault as Dean's. But when Herb let AA hold himself up with one hand on the fence and rain down blows with his other hand just after to finish the fight that was it for me. Herb is not a good official.
speedythief is offline  
post #8 of 12 (permalink) Old 01-01-2007, 02:13 AM
Sensei
 
jamlena's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: New England (RI)
Posts: 2,359
                     
Overall I think the reffing is pretty decent but there has been some questionable decisions...Big John is defintely the best of the bunch.

You can't have everything. Where would you put it?



Favorite Fighters:

Chuck Liddell
Rich Franklin
Diego Sanchez
jamlena is offline  
post #9 of 12 (permalink) Old 01-01-2007, 09:43 AM
Welterweight
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Toronto, ON
Posts: 2,449
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by speedythief
When Herb didn't stand them up and then didn't give them a clear sign of when to restart on the ground I thought it was just a mixup. Arlovski basically got a free shot but it was as much Cruz's fault as Dean's. But when Herb let AA hold himself up with one hand on the fence and rain down blows with his other hand just after to finish the fight that was it for me. Herb is not a good official.
Yeah, but think about that for a second.

If you are a referee, are you going to pay attention to Arlovski's left hand which is not pummeling the shit out of Cruz's head? Dean had to make sure that Arlovski was not hitting the back of Cruz's head and to stop the fight when it was necessary.
Rated is offline  
post #10 of 12 (permalink) Old 01-01-2007, 10:15 AM Thread Starter
Bantamweight
 
CashKola's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Michigan
Posts: 510
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by speedythief
When Herb didn't stand them up and then didn't give them a clear sign of when to restart on the ground I thought it was just a mixup. Arlovski basically got a free shot but it was as much Cruz's fault as Dean's. But when Herb let AA hold himself up with one hand on the fence and rain down blows with his other hand just after to finish the fight that was it for me. Herb is not a good official.
That pissed me off too, he didn't say when they could start he just backed up. But Cruz should have been ready. And I didn't even see AA's left hand holding onto the fence, I was just watching his right hand because I thought Herb was about to do something when he was hitting him on top of the head.

And you guys are right it was Mario Yamasaki, I always get those two confused, I'll edit that.

"Everybody underestimates the kick in the groin." - Bas Rutten
CashKola is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the MMA Forum - UFC Forums - UFC Results - MMA Videos forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome