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Old 01-01-2007, 03:08 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok I will admit I am a Titto fan, always have been. The stoppage was bull. I do not say this because I am a Titto fan. It could have been any fighter in any weight class in any organization. Im sorry but the fighter that was on his back was getting punched in his shoulder, with only a few punches making contact to the face. Seriously put the fighters names aside, put the fighters ranks and history aside. Now put your biasis aside. So now you are just watching two fighters go at it. Now watch the 3rd round and pay attention to the punching hands! Almost all connect with the shoulder of his oponent. All in all when I scored I had it Chuck rnd 1, 50/50 rnd 2 and Chuck rnd 3 (up until the stoppage). Lidell would have won the fight if it went to the judges no doubt in my mind. Chuck made Titto play Chuck's Fight, with out a doubt. But any one who is watching a fight and not two fighters because of their names I think would agree me. The stoppage was bull.
So this leads to a question.....

In the UFC are officials calling the match way to early? Look at the last two fights with Ken Shamrock, both were called way to early, giving the defencive fighter no time to rebound! Just because the defencive fighter is getting hit does not mean they are out! IT MEANS JUST ONE THING, THEY ARE BEING PUNCHED! Why don't officials call a fight after a combo then? All I am seeing lately is a fighter getting hit by a few and the official steppin in. SO what does it matter if the fighter being punched is on his back or on his legs? What I see happen is very bad, and absoultly change MMA in the UFC.
This is what I see happening. The first round starts. A fighter comes across the cage, lays 3-7 punches and the Ref stops the bout while both fighters are on their feet! Why cause the defencive fighter was getting hit, plain and simple. Is the UFC getting so bureaucratic and so wrapped up in protecting their contracted fighters that we will no longer see "fights"?

There was a day, in very recent times, that a fighter would be knocked out cold then the official would stop the bout. While post fight was happening the knocked out fighter would come to his senses and finally stand up, only to find out he got knocked the F out. I am starting to realize the UFC is turnig soft and wont let fighters fight. UFC went mainstream and lost something in the process, the MMA part of it. UFC lost the "fight" which makes up its middle name only to earn money and I feel sorry for the newbies who watch this "MMA" and get excited about it. In my final opinion UFC is very quickly turning into WWE. Just wait a Frog Splash is bound to happen.

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Old 01-01-2007, 03:12 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Ok I will admit I am a Titto fan, always have been. The stoppage was bull. I do not say this because I am a Titto fan. It could have been any fighter in any weight class in any organization. Im sorry but the fighter that was on his back was getting punched in his shoulder, with only a few punches making contact to the face. Seriously put the fighters names aside, put the fighters ranks and history aside. Now put your biasis aside. So now you are just watching two fighters go at it. Now watch the 3rd round and pay attention to the punching hands! Almost all connect with the shoulder of his oponent. All in all when I scored I had it Chuck rnd 1, 50/50 rnd 2 and Chuck rnd 3 (up until the stoppage). Lidell would have won the fight if it went to the judges no doubt in my mind. Chuck made Titto play Chuck's Fight, with out a doubt. But any one who is watching a fight and not two fighters because of their names I think would agree me. The stoppage was bull.
So this leads to a question.....

In the UFC are officials calling the match way to early? Look at the last two fights with Ken Shamrock, both were called way to early, giving the defencive fighter no time to rebound! Just because the defencive fighter is getting hit does not mean they are out! IT MEANS JUST ONE THING, THEY ARE BEING PUNCHED! Why don't officials call a fight after a combo then? All I am seeing lately is a fighter getting hit by a few and the official steppin in. SO what does it matter if the fighter being punched is on his back or on his legs? What I see happen is very bad, and absoultly change MMA in the UFC.
This is what I see happening. The first round starts. A fighter comes across the cage, lays 3-7 punches and the Ref stops the bout while both fighters are on their feet! Why cause the defencive fighter was getting hit, plain and simple. Is the UFC getting so bureaucratic and so wrapped up in protecting their contracted fighters that we will no longer see "fights"?

There was a day, in very recent times, that a fighter would be knocked out cold then the official would stop the bout. While post fight was happening the knocked out fighter would come to his senses and finally stand up, only to find out he got knocked the F out. I am starting to realize the UFC is turnig soft and wont let fighters fight. UFC went mainstream and lost something in the process, the MMA part of it. UFC lost the "fight" which makes up its middle name to earn money and I feel sorry for the newbies who watch this "MMA" and get excited about it. In my final opinion UFC is very quickly turning into WWE. Just wait a Frog Splash is bound to happen.

I agree the UFC went a little bit soft, but it's still got the greatest talent. Anyone who comes to watch a chicken fight and who just wants to see blood and mindless brutality is a fool anyway, UFC still has what makes the sport so great...
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Old 01-01-2007, 03:15 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Completely idiotic. The UFC doesn't hire / regulate the stops. Incase you new MMA fans were unaware this is a commissioned sport in the state(s) of Nevada/California and others. Being so the state(s) gaming commissions handle regularions / reffing.
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Old 01-01-2007, 03:19 AM   #4 (permalink)
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IM not talking about two ppl beating the 's' out of eachother, till one person is dying, no not all. For that a person could watch Fenoly Fights. But what I want to see is the person almost down and out come back to whoop some keister, to win. UFC, nowadays doesnt even let the chance surface. It seems like the first sign of defeat and the fight is over. Im not knocking talent no not at all, I sure as hell couldnt do what they do, I give all fighters respect, even when Im not their fan.
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Old 01-01-2007, 03:20 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Umm, what? The referee stops the fight when he feels the other fighter can no longer intelligently defend himself. If somebody is still standing it means that something is still working, where as if they're on the ground and they're constantly getting pounded, it means things arn't working and if things arn't working - it's dangerous. Does that make sense? Perhaps you have been watching too much WWE?
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Old 01-01-2007, 03:21 AM   #6 (permalink)
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IM not talking about two ppl beating the 's' out of eachother, till one person is dying, no not all. For that a person could watch Fenoly Fights. But what I want to see is the person almost down and out come back to whoop some keister, to win. UFC, nowadays doesnt even let the chance surface. It seems like the first sign of defeat and the fight is over. Im not knocking talent no not at all, I sure as hell couldnt do what they do, I give all fighters respect, even when Im not their fan.

Did you even read my post? lol. The UFC doesn't control that sort of thing. The state of Nevada does.
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Old 01-01-2007, 03:25 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Did you even read my post? lol. The UFC doesn't control that sort of thing. The state of Nevada does.

Actually no I didnt I was busy writing a responce. Yeah I do know the state regulates the officials, I guess I have been watching to much "out of country footage of fights" lately. My bad? Im not trying to start a flaming topic and yes the WWE coment was a bit over board but I just dont see the UFC as I once did. To each his/her own! I guess?!
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Tito was curled up like a little girl. It would've gotten really bad really quick. I say again, do you need to see a fighter leave in a body bad before you will be happy. He didn't contest the stop cause it was a good stop. Tito was owned by a much better fighter. He was not intelligently defending himself. Also I see many fights were a guy is getting beat on and comes back to win. Trigg vs Hughes, and I can't remember who but there was one at UFC66 too. Don't blame the UFC anyhow. They aren't stopping fights. With a fight like Tito and Chuck the ref could tell tito had given up on himself. He wasn't gonna move until the ref stopped it. He was holding on for dear life. If the fight hadn't stopped then, Tito might have gotten his nose broken, his head smashed in, or some serious brain damage. Given, it wasn't at that point yet. But what's the point of letting a fight continue if all the guy is doing is lying there. It could have justifiably been stopped in the 1st round but Chuck laid off by his own free will.
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Old 01-01-2007, 03:45 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Tito was curled up like a little girl. It would've gotten really bad really quick. I say again, do you need to see a fighter leave in a body bad before you will be happy. He didn't contest the stop cause it was a good stop. Tito was owned by a much better fighter. He was not intelligently defending himself. Also I see many fights were a guy is getting beat on and comes back to win. Trigg vs Hughes, and I can't remember who but there was one at UFC66 too. Don't blame the UFC anyhow. They aren't stopping fights. With a fight like Tito and Chuck the ref could tell tito had given up on himself. He wasn't gonna move until the ref stopped it. He was holding on for dear life. If the fight hadn't stopped then, Tito might have gotten his nose broken, his head smashed in, or some serious brain damage. Given, it wasn't at that point yet. But what's the point of letting a fight continue if all the guy is doing is lying there. It could have justifiably been stopped in the 1st round but Chuck laid off by his own free will.

I was just using that fight as an openier/setup to my question/statement and AtomDanger pretty much answered it thus far. Getting puched in the shoulder and covering your stomach with your knees is not givin up by the way. But Im not going to argue Titto defence in that piticular fight or any other fighter in any other fight, I already said Tito had lost the fight in my first post, thats not the topic here, that topic was killed in the first 15 minutes following that fight, saturday night. But thanx for your responce even though its in the wrong thread!
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I don't believe I specificly said that tito was giving up BECAUSE he was covering up. The two go hand in hand. He was scared and nervous and didn't look like he wanted to be there. I too was using the fight as an example to say that I don't think the UFC is going down the drain. I think you're ignoring the fights were they aren't stopped early. Hence why I gave the examples of Frank Trigg vs Matt Hughes and the earlier fight in UFC66 in adittion to the Tito thing. Did you read my whole post?

Any way, thanks for attempting to shoot down my post. But unfortunately you don't seem to have even read the post. Keep working on it and maybe once you're able to fit the whole post into your brain you can respond acurately. I understand that this may take you a little while so I will wait until you can think of one of your clever little responses.
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