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post #11 of 24 (permalink) Old 12-26-2009, 07:19 PM
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This isnt a big deal. Apply this same principal to any other business and you will see that it makes perfect sense. The UFC isnt being petty, they arent helping there former employees make money, thats what happens when you leave pretty much any company in the world, they arent going to do any favors for someone who works for the competition. That would be stupid for most organizations in the world, why should the UFC be any different?
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So what if they sign a quick rising fighter that trains with dan in deathclutch (I think thats what its called) and is representing that brand?
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Clutch gear is a clothing company owned by Henderson, Team Quest is where Dan trains along with Matt Lindland and Chael Sonnen.




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It's just the UFC, not wanting certain people to be able to advertise on their shows obviously. I don't think it would be an outrageous thing to demand if they actually paid their fighters a decent amount of money.

I'd say the biggest one that comes to mind is RVCA, considering it's BJ Penn's main sponsor, granted they were doing stuff with Strikeforce, but who wouldn't want to advertise for their business, I mean Dana could see the business sense in that right?
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First off, yes, the UFC does make clothes, but that wasnt my point. Dan Henderson is in direct competition with the UFC and Clinch Gear is his product. Why in the world would any company in the world advertise a competators product?

If you owned a company that made cereal would you allow a compeating cereal brand to advertise thier pop-tarts on your cereal box? If you say yes, you should NEVER try to run a business!

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First off, yes, the UFC does make clothes, but that wasnt my point. Dan Henderson is in direct competition with the UFC and Clinch Gear is his product. Why in the world would any company in the world advertise a competators product?
Tom Atencio fought outside the UFC but they didn't ban Affliction until Affliction started promoting their own shows. And I really still don't see Clinch Gear as being in competition with the UFC, in any sense. I don't see how you can say these two companies are in competition unless you admit it's a personal thing with Dana vs Dan. It's not like Dan's face is part of their logo or something.
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If I owned a cereal company, would I refuse to co-advertise with a company that makes cereal bowls, when my company AND my company's private contractors (some of whom could really, really use the extra cash) were making money on the deal, just because the CEO of the bowl manufacturer was also a member of the board of directors at a competing cereal company? Maybe, maybe not. But it's not as simple as you put it.

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You co-advertise comparison makes no sense Hex Rei, why would anyone co-advertise anything if it was only beneficial for one side cause that is how it works, in absolutly no way does having Clinch Gear on fighters benefit the UFC.

The comparison to Tom Atencio is also weak as he has zero notoriety as a fighter and the UFC has never attempted to acquire him as a fighter and the UFC has never invested any money in promoting Atencio.




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There is a benefit for both sides. I read that this year the UFC began taking a cut of sponsor dollars from their fighters, plus the fighters themselves are benefitted, which means they have less worries about money, which enables them to focus more on getting the best training possible. I think my example was just fine.

The Atencio thing was weak, but I havent been able to find any proof of Punishment going on the banned sponsor list during Tito's affliction gig, so ANY past examples are at least somewhat relevant. And overall I still think this is nothing more than Dana trying to put Dan in his place. The UFC doesn't gain anything from this beyond some satisfaction for Dana.

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They do benefit more than just sticking it to Dan though, for the fighters who run there own clothing lines it gives the UFC something else on the table during negotiations, the amount of money that Dan loses from the loss of exposure due to his line not being seen on UFC programming could have easily been the difference between the UFC's offer and Strikeforces. Its another benefit the UFC can offer fighters or take away.




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They do benefit more than just sticking it to Dan though, for the fighters who run there own clothing lines it gives the UFC something else on the table during negotiations, the amount of money that Dan loses from the loss of exposure due to his line not being seen on UFC programming could have easily been the difference between the UFC's offer and Strikeforces. Its another benefit the UFC can offer fighters or take away.
So this will just be a useful bargaining chip for negotiating with Hendo and Tito then? Or are there other fighters out there that run their own clothing lines that I don't know about? Let's be honest, Dana only banned Clinch Gear to stick it to Hendo. Unfortunately the people who will be most hurt by this move are the undercard fighters getting paid a few grand who need all the sponsorship money they can get.
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