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Old 01-01-2007, 07:34 PM   #11 (permalink)
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If Rampage wins, have him fight Chuck next.


Then have Jardine fight Rashad Evans and the winner of that gets the next title shot.



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Jardine and Evans both train together out of Greg Jacksons camp. I cant see how they would fight each other seeing how they are probably good friends. Throw Jardine against Tito and Rashad against Babalu. I think those would be 2 great matches.
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Old 01-01-2007, 07:39 PM   #12 (permalink)
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chuck never fights anyone with the striking ability's he has.. HE DID a lil while back.. but since MMA has grown very large.. chuck has never fought a A+ striker..

after saturday i honestly think wanderlei would mop chuck up but .. yuh im not gonna get started on that
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Old 01-01-2007, 07:47 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Did you just say "you need to get inside on Chuck Liddell."? A few guys have tried that.

Vernon White was a great young striker with the athleticism to bring it to Liddell and get inside and throw short punches. While he tried to move inside he got punched in the face repeatedly, and he did not last that long.

Randleman got inside on Chuck, but those were all for takedowns, and we know that you have to be better than an NCAA wrestler to take down Chuck Liddell.

Jardine does have a shot at Chuck, the question is whether or not he's going to try and dance with Chuck. It doesn't seem to be an issue of people getting inside, it's an issue of argressiveness. Everyone knows how strong Chuck's hands are and so they try not to get hit so much, always thinking about normal angles, that they miss little things he does and some of the bizzarre angles that he throws at. That is, at least in my mind, the key to beating Chuck.

Look at it this way. Chuck is feared and respected by every lightheavyweight in the UFC, and his hands are considered the most dangerous weapon around. Chuck went to PRIDE and fought Rampage and Rampage just took the punishment as it came and dished it right back at Chuck, and he won. He showed no fear.
About the last bit. In some cases that would be right. But, look at Heath Herring. He has balls, he is an absolute beast. Heath just goes straight in. Fedor Emelianenko, Mirko Filpovic. He doesn't give a shit. But, they out class him as fighters. They are better fighters than Heath is. No Fear wont do a thing if you're plain and simply out matched. I definitely think you would have a better chance. But, it's also stupid. If just anybody went in they would get hurt. Chuck Liddell is a champion kickboxer. You can not muck around.
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Old 01-01-2007, 08:11 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Well Randy was the one that was domintating the 1st and 3ed fight
He wasnt dominating the third fight.
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Old 01-01-2007, 08:20 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Jardin? he cant even beat Rashad Evans he gets a shot before Jardin, but hes not ready either. The way you beat chuck is not by inside fighting ie. veron, sobral, its technically boxing him straight 1-2 punches get out shoulders high chin down and gonig to have to eat a few body punches, then take him down center or the ring so he cant use the fence to get up. Jeremy Horn did a decent job onthe boxing part he hits like B!tch and cant take chuck down. I think Mauricio shogun is man who can beat chuck not silva or jackson. Shogun is a better figther than silva and needs to come to the ufc next.
Jardine has improved alot since his last fight with evans. Chucks power range is on the outside. As I said earlyer chuck does not like to be on defence Randy was alway on the offence when he beat chuck. Sobral is not a boxer and not as good a striker as jardine.

Everyone that has tryed to stay away and fight chuck has been koed.
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He wasnt dominating the third fight.
in the 3ed fight randy was winning all the way up to the point where he sliped.
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Jardine and Evans both train together out of Greg Jacksons camp. I cant see how they would fight each other seeing how they are probably good friends. Throw Jardine against Tito and Rashad against Babalu. I think those would be 2 great matches.
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Old 01-01-2007, 08:31 PM   #18 (permalink)
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No he wasnt, randy couldnt take chuck down and chuck connected with several good punches.
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Jardin? He cant even beat Rashad Evans he gets a shot before jardin but hes not ready either. You chuck by technically boxing him striaght 1-2 straight punches and get out shoulders high chin down. then you take him down in the middle of the ring so he cant use the fence to get up.Jeremy horn did a alright job of the boxing part but he hits like a b!tch and cant take chuck down.Inside fighting? chuck will have you chasing and knock you out.I think the man who beat chuck is maricio shogun not silva or jackson.Shogun is better fighter than silva and needs to come to the ufc.
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Jardine has improved alot since his last fight with evans. Chucks power range is on the outside. As I said earlyer chuck does not like to be on defence Randy was alway on the offence when he beat chuck. Sobral is not a boxer and not as good a striker as jardine.

Everyone that has tryed to stay away and fight chuck has been koed.
I know jardin has improved but you really think he can take chuck? come on. crawl before you walk. Rashad has improved also and I think is still better.Im not saying to stay away from chuck either you can still be aggressive and get out and those guys he beat drop their hands and shoulders when punching even horn did. Chuck isnt a aggressive striker that just overwhelms peolpe and dosent give the chance to do what im saying to do. Overeem can get chuck too i think.
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