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I know jardin has improved but you really think he can take chuck? come on. crawl before you walk. Rashad has improved also and I think is still better.Im not saying to stay away from chuck either you can still be aggressive and get out and those guys he beat drop their hands and shoulders when punching even horn did. Chuck isnt a aggressive striker that just overwhelms peolpe and dosent give the chance to do what im saying to do. Overeem can get chuck too i think.
No I think he has the right idea in the way he is fighting. 2 or three more fights and I think he will be ready.

Well I think chuck is always in the middle of the ring keeping the other guy near the fence thus giving them no where to move. Whenever he gets a guy in that situation that is when he wins. Watch Randy vs Chuck fights In the first one randy was in the middle of the ring and he won 2ed fight0 Chuck was in the middle of the ring and he won in the first round of the 3ed fight randy kept chuck on the fence and was won that round. Jardine always fights for the center and never gives it up. You have to keep the center of the ring and cut off his movement to beet him

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The reason why no one ever pushes the fight with Chuck, is because hes known to knock out several people. And Keith Jardine, sure he could knock out Liddell, but hes not ready for a title fight just yet, I think he needs to win one more fight until hes proven to be ready for a title fight. If Quinton Jackson wins his debut at UFC 67, which I expect him to have no problem, then UFC should have him face Liddell. Hes the man capable to beat Liddell.
He's not only capable, I would say he would likely beat Chuck
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[QUOTE=americanfighter]No I think he has the right idea in the way he is fighting. 2 or three more fights and I think he will be ready.

Well, we just have to disagree on Jardin. I think if fighter can do what saying they will beat chuck. Randy stand was not so great thats why he was getting pushed around not literally. I think you have to find a nice medium with chuck kind of changed it up be smart then its take down time cause its not smart to stand the whole fight with chuck.
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Jardine would be the one to do it now.......how good of a chin does liddell have though?
Jardine against Chuck?? C'mon ... just because the guy gets a win doesn't mean he's anywhere near ready or deserving. Chuck would blast his ass to tomorrow. Jardine couldn't even beat Bonnar
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He's not only capable, I would say he would likely beat Chuck
Quinton Jackson is a bum. he barely beat Lindland recently who is a natural 185.
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Jardine against Chuck?? C'mon ... just because the guy gets a win doesn't mean he's anywhere near ready or deserving. Chuck would blast his ass to tomorrow. Jardine couldn't even beat Bonnar
I agree with this kid. He cant beat Rashad evans either
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Quinton Jackson is a bum. he barely beat Lindland recently who is a natural 185.
Yeah, but did you see Quinton hand Chuck his ass a few years back.... I really don't know if THAT much has changed since their last fight. Chuck probably has improved but in the stand up I believe Quinton has Chuck's number
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Jardine would get murdered against chuck. The guy beats Forrest Griffen, one of the most overrated (but fun to watch) fighters in the UFC, and now everybody thinks he can beat chuck? He couldn't even finish Stephan Bonnar. He is slow as molasses and just clocked forrest with a few good ones because Forrest seemed to think his chin was better than it was.

Jardine is B level at best. Rampage will get a shot soon though, and that will be a good fight.
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Yeah, but did you see Quinton hand Chuck his ass a few years back.... I really don't know if THAT much has changed since their last fight. Chuck probably has improved but in the stand up I believe Quinton has Chuck's number
Yeah I saw the fight. But its a fight and sometimes sh!t happens. I think it was a fluke. But have you seen practically every decent fighter consitently hand jackson his ass.
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Jardine would get murdered against chuck. The guy beats Forrest Griffen, one of the most overrated (but fun to watch) fighters in the UFC, and now everybody thinks he can beat chuck? He couldn't even finish Stephan Bonnar. He is slow as molasses and just clocked forrest with a few good ones because Forrest seemed to think his chin was better than it was.

Jardine is B level at best. Rampage will get a shot soon though, and that will be a good fight.

Quoted for truth. Overrate Jardine at your peril. I would like to see him beat Ortiz or Sobral before anything, because either of them would destroy him. I'm a huge Griffin fan but it is obvious he is not talented enough to hang, which is what Jardine finally confirmed. Rampage v Jardine might be interesting just so we could possibly see the first death in the UFC...lol
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