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Old 01-02-2010, 11:49 PM   #11 (permalink)
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short answer is yes.
People like Aoki comes around once in a while, like bj penn is his bjj is one of a kind. He is a freak of nature on the ground, but as for a champ don't know. Unlike penn his stand up is questionable, but he does have the tools to get fights on the ground and finish them but his stand up is weak.
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Old 01-03-2010, 08:15 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Does anyone think aoki doesn't cut that much weight which puts him at another major disadvatage

don't get me wrong I want him in the ufc but I think he could end up like yoshida
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Old 01-03-2010, 08:42 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Without his Aoki pants and under NA scoring: he wouldnt get anywhere near the belt imo, barely contender status.

But at the end of the day there's only one way to find out.

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Im not sure how he would do but he would definatly beat Maynard, Gray doesn't finish fights, his top control is not extraordinary and he leaves space between him and his opponent, I just don't see how he could survive 3 rounds in order to gain the win.
Thats assuming Gray decides to TD him.

I see him keeping it on the feet and picking him apart standing/KO him.
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Old 01-03-2010, 08:54 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Aoki's main problem would be his size. He would be killer at 145 but at 155 he would be tossed around like he were nothing. People would push him around all day and since his wrestling isn't all that great he wouldn't be able to get the fight to the ground.

Most of the fighters in the UFC's 155 division are excellent wrestlers with better striking than Aoki. I don't see him being more than a middle-of-the-pack guy who smashes scrubs.
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I think he could be top 5 potential with some more work on his striking
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Old 01-03-2010, 11:28 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Without his Aoki pants and under NA scoring: he wouldnt get anywhere near the belt imo, barely contender status.

But at the end of the day there's only one way to find out.



Thats assuming Gray decides to TD him.

I see him keeping it on the feet and picking him apart standing/KO him.
Exactly. I see grey landing at will with his boxing. He'll prob throw combinations at him. If Aoki shows any type of striking Maynard would start throwing only 1's and 2's at him in and out like he did against Miller and Huerta.

Personally I'm one of those people that think Aoki have very suspect striking ability will cost him wins in the UFC. With the right matchups, he could definitely make a run, but I see him similar to a dustin hazelet of the lw.
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I love how everyone thinks he would get smashed, yet he continues to beat top guys. Either Hellboy, alvarez, Hirota, and Calvacante are great fighters, or they aren't. People can't continue to think that they would be great additions the UFC LW division, yet discount Aoki when he beats them.

He would do well. He would probably lose a couple of fights, but he would still be at the top of the division.
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Aoki would be a great addition to the UFC LW division.

He would be a top 10 LW easily maybe even top 5. I think he would lose to a few guys there Maynard, Tyson Griffin for example.

I would love to see him vs B.J just to prove a point to all the haters who think Aoki would beat B.J.

B.J would destroy him.
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I love how everyone thinks he would get smashed, yet he continues to beat top guys. Either Hellboy, alvarez, Hirota, and Calvacante are great fighters, or they aren't. People can't continue to think that they would be great additions the UFC LW division, yet discount Aoki when he beats them.

He would do well. He would probably lose a couple of fights, but he would still be at the top of the division.
To answer that, I think all four of those guys are overrated themselves ... none really have many impressive creds or pedigree outside of MMA (mostly small local stuff), and would get smashed by the UFC elite.

The whole LW division hype outside the UFC thing is just elitism IMO, in general I think the MMA talent in Japan is far lower. Even during Pride, I think 80% of their rosters were full of local cans that stood no chance against the few vets that were solid and got imported by the UFC eventually (like Rampage, Nog, Shogun). After PRIDE folded, I think it's pretty low.

Aoki would get killed in the UFC, like it wouldn't even be competitive. Watch it happen to Gomi in his next fight, he is essentially the Aoki of 2 years ago. Not style wise, but hype wise.
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I think he would be able to compete. However, I don't think he would be able to compete with the top tier guys in the division, without some adjustments to his game and or physique.

I could see him losing to Frankie Edgar, Tyson Griffin, Ken Flo, and probably even a Nate Diaz. Maybe some others I could list but I just don't think he matches up well with most GOOD UFC fighters.

I think wrestlers would dictate the fight keep it standing and his striking would be exposed. Or he'd fight a great standup guy with decent grappling to survive on the ground, and then Aoki would still get beaten on his feet.

Also, putting him anywhere near BJ Penn, even in the same sentence is kind of laughable imo, we all know BJ has better grappling credentials and is an amazing athelete. Aoki's striking is lightyears behind BJ's, who is arguably the best pure boxer in MMA.
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