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Old 01-03-2010, 01:55 PM   #31 (permalink)

 
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BJ was very concerned early with defending the TD in the second fight because he knew that is what George wanted to do, I still think BJ is the better striker but GSP threatening with the take down forces his opponent to reserve a bit an not over commit.
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Old 01-03-2010, 03:42 PM   #32 (permalink)
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BJ was very concerned early with defending the TD in the second fight because he knew that is what George wanted to do, I still think BJ is the better striker but GSP threatening with the take down forces his opponent to reserve a bit an not over commit.
what you said makes gsp a more effective striker. technically speaking he is very sound. crisp technical kicks, long jab, and his superman variation combos are very technical.

daley is very technical but its his tight striking that is key, especially his left hook. he doesnt wing it wide like a liddell. its very tight to the body and the movement is short and quick. technically the best way to throw it. add that to the combonation of big hang and natural power and that makes daley a KO machine.

i said technical way too much in that post.
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I think Rogan was just riding the hype train during a card that was criticized heavily. He was building the fight as everyone knew it wasn't really a great co-main event. I think Daley is prob top striker in his class but def not mma.
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Old 01-03-2010, 04:01 PM   #34 (permalink)
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what you said makes gsp a more effective striker.
Not to correct you, but it actually makes GSP the more effective mixed martial artist. A striker might merely rely on leg kicks and punches, whereas a well rounded mixed martial artist will use everything at his disposal, which St. Pierre does. And such is what throws his opponents completely for a loop. I happen to think that GSP is very technical when it comes to striking. I dare say he's right up there with the best, but even I'd be hesitant to give him the nod over Penn, and I'm notorious for hanging off of St. Pierre's nuts, lol.
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Not to correct you, but it actually makes GSP the more effective mixed martial artist. A striker might merely rely on leg kicks and punches, whereas a well rounded mixed martial artist will use everything at his disposal, which St. Pierre does. And such is what throws his opponents completely for a loop. I happen to think that GSP is very technical when it comes to striking. I dare say he's right up there with the best, but even I'd be hesitant to give him the nod over Penn, and I'm notorious for hanging off of St. Pierre's nuts, lol.

i was strickly talking about his striking, but i completely agree with you. i actually believe gsp is the most well rounded mixed martial artist today.

as far as penn goes his boxing is the most technical is the mma in my opinion. he has some pretty nice knees but his kicks are not high level. although he did bust diegos head open with one.
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BJ was very concerned early with defending the TD in the second fight because he knew that is what George wanted to do, I still think BJ is the better striker but GSP threatening with the take down forces his opponent to reserve a bit an not over commit.
Ugh give me a break man, you're on this boat too?

"GSP's striking is only good because his take-downs are good, which are only good because he sets it up with his striking."


GSP's the best striker at WW and a better striker than GSP, he proved it. Why would BJ fear the take-down when he's great off his back and has one of the highest TDD rates in the game?
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Ugh give me a break man, you're on this boat too?

"GSP's striking is only good because his take-downs are good, which are only good because he sets it up with his striking."


GSP's the best striker at WW and a better striker than GSP, he proved it. Why would BJ fear the take-down when he's great off his back and has one of the highest TDD rates in the game?
Jup I agree! People should finally recognize that GSP is one of the best strikers Mixed Martial Arts has to offer. All the excuses he is only good because of his dangerous Take-downs should finite stop! It's pure hate and statements from BJ nuthugging
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Ugh give me a break man, you're on this boat too?

"GSP's striking is only good because his take-downs are good, which are only good because he sets it up with his striking."


GSP's the best striker at WW and a better striker than GSP, he proved it. Why would BJ fear the take-down when he's great off his back and has one of the highest TDD rates in the game?
Wouldn't say GSP is the best striker, he's definitely up there don't get me wrong, but he's also contending againts the likes of Martin Kampmann, Daley (who is a damn good striker, just not "THE MOST TECHNICAL STRIKER IN MMA OMFG") and Thiago Alves, all of whom I'd rank over GSP in the striking department. Now, GSP does quite possibly have the most well rounded game in MMA which makes all of his skills seem like they're god like, where as strikers like Daley, Kamp and Alves have to worry about the takedown etc.
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Wouldn't say GSP is the best striker, he's definitely up there don't get me wrong, but he's also contending againts the likes of Martin Kampmann, Daley (who is a damn good striker, just not "THE MOST TECHNICAL STRIKER IN MMA OMFG") and Thiago Alves, all of whom I'd rank over GSP in the striking department. Now, GSP does quite possibly have the most well rounded game in MMA which makes all of his skills seem like they're god like, where as strikers like Daley, Kamp and Alves have to worry about the takedown etc.
Say it isn't so. I don't understand how people can rank Kampmann as a top tier striker. Joe always talks about Kampmann's world class striking as well. Don't get me wrong, I like Kampmann and always find myself cheering for him but I have yet to see this top notch striking game of his.

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I'm not buying into any of the Daley hype.
His win over Kampmann was impressive, but I never really thought of Kampann as a powerful striker. He had a terrible gameplan for the fight.

Daley did just beat Hazelett. Uhmm..so?
He's not a top 10 WW. He has very good subs but horrible stand up.

I really want to see Daley fight Condit. I think his stand up is good enough to weather an early storm before taking it to the ground where Condit will have a HUGE advantage.

And if we really want to call Daley the best striker at WW, I want to see him fight Johnson or Alves.
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