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post #21 of 34 (permalink) Old 01-03-2010, 04:04 PM
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You'll still have controversial decisions in 5 round fights. Look at Machida/Shogun or Cowboy/Henderson for two recent examples.
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Like DJ Syko already mentioned the ones who compete in a ME are all be able to go 5 rounds easily. I don't understand why we should keep 3 rounds makes no sense to me honestly...
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While all of that sounds nice, the UFC doesnt really pay any attention to rankings when making fights. They base fights more or less off of marketability then what the rankings say. #1 contender seems to be the guy that will draw in the most fans not who deserves the title shot.
I completely agree. But I didn't say anything about rankings. A great example is Hardy/Swick. 99 out of 100 people would have said that was not worthy of being a number one contender fight. But that's not up to us, or the rankings, it's up the UFC. So had they made that a 5 rounder with such high stakes, it would have had absolutely nothing to do with rankings or records, just two fighters that haven't fough GSP yet, and pose some interesting threats to his title.

Simply put, I agree, but that's not what I said.
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While all of that sounds nice, the UFC doesnt really pay any attention to rankings when making fights. They base fights more or less off of marketability then what the rankings say. #1 contender seems to be the guy that will draw in the most fans not who deserves the title shot.
Youre not quite wrong with this, but if that would be the case then Kimbo Slice must be getting the next shot at Lesnar right?? Won't happen! It's not only about marketing there last performance and rankings are important too. It's more like a nice combination of everthing.
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You'll still have controversial decisions in 5 round fights. Look at Machida/Shogun or Cowboy/Henderson for two recent examples.
I dont think anyone is questioning the integrity of the decision. This is to do with giving the fight every chance of being finished decisively.

Another aspect to consider is if only Title fights are 5 rounds, this gives an advantage to the Champion, as theres no way of contenders to have experience in fighting 5 round fights, unless theyve had a title shot before. As has already been mentioned, the guys who headline Main Events are usually the elite fighters, who i believe should be fighting 5 rounds, regardless of a title being involved.

Having all non-title fights 3 rounds would be like non-title boxing matches only being 8 rounds, and title fights 12 rounds. Its just a little odd in my opinion.
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I dont think anyone is questioning the integrity of the decision. This is to do with giving the fight every chance of being finished decisively.

Another aspect to consider is if only Title fights are 5 rounds, this gives an advantage to the Champion, as theres no way of contenders to have experience in fighting 5 round fights, unless theyve had a title shot before. As has already been mentioned, the guys who headline Main Events are usually the elite fighters, who i believe should be fighting 5 rounds, regardless of a title being involved.

Having all non-title fights 3 rounds would be like non-title boxing matches only being 8 rounds, and title fights 12 rounds. Its just a little odd in my opinion.

5 Rounds would actually make there a higher chance of the fight going to the judges. Fighters know they only have 3 rounds to end the fight, so they go in there swinging and care less about cardio. In most 5 round fights, fighters pace themselves, so you would infact see more draws or more fighters drawing out the fight to win by points. The exception is the HW division, but most HW fights don't go 5rounds anyways.


And the only reason this is being brought up is because of Silva/Evans. That fight wasn't going any other way. Evans was winning on points and Silva was gassed. If he couldn't finish Evans in the 3rd when he was rocked, he sure as hell wasn't going to in the 4th or 5th. Same with Nogueira/Couture. I would have liked that to be a 5 round fight, but that fight wasn't going to go Couture's way either. Would Ortiz/Forrest 2 have been different with 2 more rounds? No, same outcome with Tito gassing hard.

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I agree with the OP.

Title fights in boxing aren't 20 rounds, the Super Bowl isn't 6 quarters, and the World series isn't a 15 game series. There's really no reason to make 5 rounds exclusive to title fights only.

I don't mind what they have now, but at the same time, I would welcome this change.
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I'd go with the 3 rounds, but if it is too close to call, go to an extra round or two. I like that idea, I think I'd like to see that too. In last nights fight I could've gone for another round.
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5 Rounds would actually make there a higher chance of the fight going to the judges.
This has got to be the most backwards way of thinking i've seen for some time. By your logic, if fights were only 2 rounds, we'd see more fights finished and less judges decisions. . . And if they were 1 round, heck, we wouldnt need judges at all. . .

Do you, by chance, happen to work in a nuclear power plant and have 3 children called Bart, Lisa and Maggie?
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This has got to be the most backwards way of thinking i've seen for some time. By your logic, if fights were only 2 rounds, we'd see more fights finished and less judges decisions. . . And if they were 1 round, heck, we wouldnt need judges at all. . .

Do you, by chance, happen to work in a nuclear power plant and have 3 children called Bart, Lisa and Maggie?
LOL at the insults. It makes perfect sense and Thiago actually proved my point himself. He started to put the heat on near the end of the 2nd and in the 3rd round because he knew he was running out of time and constantly looking at the clock. The problem was he was gassed though. I'm not at all saying that all 5 rounders would go to the judges, but just because it is a 5 round fight doesn't mean the fight is going to be decisively decided or magically go another way in the last 2. The fact is, unless the guys in there are true contenders, they aren't going to do much in there after the first 3 rounds and there is a bigger chance of those last 2 rounds being gas fests than a KO.

I bet you are one of the guys who think Thiago would have magically pulled off something if it went 2 more rounds right?
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