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Tom Lawlor 3 37.50%
Aaron Simpson 5 62.50%
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post #51 of 60 (permalink) Old 01-12-2010, 02:57 PM
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This is a fight that demonstrates judges need to get over their reluctance to hand out 10-8 rounds. I thought the first was clearly a 10-8, you could give Simpson the next two so it seemed like a 28-28 fight to me.

Give Simspon credit though, guy has a chin.
Ditto for me Drogo. That was a 10-8 if ever there was one. And frankly, neither one of these warriors deserved to lose this gem. Bring on the rematch.

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I was thinking the same thing before the decision was announced, that this fight might be a draw. So even if you gave Lawlor a 10-8 in RD 1 it's not like he "won" the fight. However, I agree with the decision. Lawlor had Simpson rocked, and wobbled for sure, but he never knocked him down in 1 (correct me if I'm wrong) And that is usually what constitutes a 10-8.
Not sure what the 10-8 rule is but that was my assumption as to why there were no 10-8's from the judges. You make a good point sNUFF. Not sure there is a hard 10-8 knockdown rule but it may be an unwritten judging rule. Anyone know?

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Ditto for me Drogo. That was a 10-8 if ever there was one. And frankly, neither one of these warriors deserved to lose this gem. Bring on the rematch.



Not sure what the 10-8 rule is but that was my assumption as to why there were no 10-8's from the judges. You make a good point sNUFF. Not sure there is a hard 10-8 knockdown rule but it may be an unwritten judging rule. Anyone know?
I could definitely have seen a judge give Lawlor a 10-8 in RD 1, it just didn't happen. I think some other things that might have factored into Lawlor not getting a 10-8 are the fact that besides rocking Simpson, he didn't really capitalize on the moment. Nor did he drop him, So do you judge that as adversity for Simpson? Even with Simpson rocked badly Lawlor was unable to have much octagon control besides stalk/strike.

Just a few ideas as to why the 10-8 wasn't given.
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Good points, but still...

You all make good points about Lawlor not capitalizing on the damage he inflicted on Simpson. Nonetheless, all things being equal, I think Lawlor won the fight, though Simpson hung on in pretty impressive fashion.

My scoring:

Round 1: Lawlor 10-8
Round 2: Lawlor 10-9
Round 3: Simpson 10-9

I'd love to watch a rematch, though this time, Simpson will be wise to Lawlor's new-found punching ability. He won't come into the next fight thinking he can outclass Lawlor standing up, which will be a disadvantage for Lawlor. Nevertheless, Lawlor needs to keep hitting his opponent when he's rocked him and not try for a silly takedown, thus giving the guy time to recover. A pretty freshman mistake, if you ask me. That said, these guys are brutes. Would love to see a rematch.
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Lawlor got WTF ROBBED.
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Lawlor won that fight. And it wasn't even close. Lawlor inflicted serious damage, something Simpson didn't do. He tried to finish the fight and had full octagon control for most of the fight. Round 1 was easily 10-8 for Lawlor. Round 2 Lawlor landed A LOT more than Simpson, so 10-9. Round 3 was pretty much Simpson controlling the fight without inflicting much damage. In my mind that decision was worse than Randy/Vera and maybe even Shogun/Machida. Maybe not as big of a deal, because it wasn't a high profile bout, but still worse.




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Either way, I'll forever be a fan of Lawlor because of his weigh in antics, and his Hulkamania entrance. Just beautiful


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Aaron simpson did not win his fight!!!

just watched it and wtfff 1sr round was easy a 10-8 he was just stunned and almost out for the whole round! u dont get more 1 sided and 2nd was close bull shit
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UFC judges are HORRID.
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That's why you don't leave it in the Judge's hands. Lawlor should take this loss to train his cardio more, and learn how to jump all over a stunned oponent.

The strength of the punch isn't always everything. Lawlor had an opponent stunned on multiple occasions and COULD NOT finish it. tough luck.

Simpson came out on top as the more versatile fighter. And IMO did win that fight.

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I agree that the first should have been judged a 10-8 for lawlor's dominance, but if I remember correctly Simpson was never really dropped to the canvas from any of those shots he was taking. I dont think Ive ever seen anyone get beat that bad and stay on his feet. That must be the reason it was not scored 10-8.

I gave rounds 2 and 3 to simpson but round 2 was really close and couldve been scored either way. But no matter how you score it, neither one of these guys are losers. Who really cares who won, we'll be seeing plenty more of both of them in the future.
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