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Old 01-22-2010, 12:13 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Diego, KenFlo ,Maynard, Stevenson, Guida > Edgar

Ok so pretty simple right and now...


Penn > Diego, Kenflo, Stevenson, Guida, Maynard and last on the list Edgar..


look at it this way...

How long would you give Edgar in a fight Vs GSP ??

2 minutes...tops!!!

Frankie hasnt faced anyone...he beat Sherk....WOW!!! The none juiced up Sherk at that....A sherk that wanted to show off his hands and sucked!!!

Frankie may seem like a nice kid but I would dish out 50$ to see him Vs Guida before seeing him out classed by Penn!!


Edgar should go to WEC and try and get a title run up there, cause it aint happening here.
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Old 01-22-2010, 02:19 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Diego, KenFlo ,Maynard, Stevenson, Guida > Edgar

Ok so pretty simple right and now...


Penn > Diego, Kenflo, Stevenson, Guida, Maynard and last on the list Edgar..


look at it this way...

How long would you give Edgar in a fight Vs GSP ??

2 minutes...tops!!!

Frankie hasnt faced anyone...he beat Sherk....WOW!!! The none juiced up Sherk at that....A sherk that wanted to show off his hands and sucked!!!

Frankie may seem like a nice kid but I would dish out 50$ to see him Vs Guida before seeing him out classed by Penn!!


Edgar should go to WEC and try and get a title run up there, cause it aint happening here.
Styles make fights. GSP would maul Edgar because he has godlike takedowns and is heavier, and Frankie' BJJ isn't good enough to nullify St. Pierre's on the ground.

Whereas, BJ Penn is a BJJ prodigy with mediocre takedowns, great TDD and great boxing. Frankie Edgar's base is wrestling and he has shown dramatically improved hands over his last fights. BJ can pretty much ONLY hope to outbox him, and vice versa with Edgar.

If Sanchez could last almost the whole fight with his subpar technique, then Frankie has a chance getting deep into the fight, and possibly getting a decision.

If you look at the lightweights you listed, none of them really match up well against BJ. Stevenson's strengths are the same as BJ's but worse, Kenny is small, susceptible to takedowns and submissions, and his striking isn't enough, Maynard/Guida/Sanchez rely on wrestling and pace and wouldn't be able to take BJ down at his current conditioning, while BJ has them all killed in the standup.

Edgar has shown great boxing in his last couple of fights, arguably better than any other lightweight challenger. Does it mean he can beat BJ? No, but it makes him as good a choice, or better, than any other fighter in the division.
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Frankie's size and reach disadvantage will be his demise. I think he is a really well rounded fighter and has good hands but he ain't knocking BJ out, he ain't out striking him and he ain't taking him down.

I think this will be an entertaining fight, but Frankie is gonna be in for a world of hurt.
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Styles make fights. GSP would maul Edgar because he has godlike takedowns and is heavier, and Frankie' BJJ isn't good enough to nullify St. Pierre's on the ground.

Whereas, BJ Penn is a BJJ prodigy with mediocre takedowns, great TDD and great boxing. Frankie Edgar's base is wrestling and he has shown dramatically improved hands over his last fights. BJ can pretty much ONLY hope to outbox him, and vice versa with Edgar.

If Sanchez could last almost the whole fight with his subpar technique, then Frankie has a chance getting deep into the fight, and possibly getting a decision.

If you look at the lightweights you listed, none of them really match up well against BJ. Stevenson's strengths are the same as BJ's but worse, Kenny is small, susceptible to takedowns and submissions, and his striking isn't enough, Maynard/Guida/Sanchez rely on wrestling and pace and wouldn't be able to take BJ down at his current conditioning, while BJ has them all killed in the standup.

Edgar has shown great boxing in his last couple of fights, arguably better than any other lightweight challenger. Does it mean he can beat BJ? No, but it makes him as good a choice, or better, than any other fighter in the division.
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Old 01-23-2010, 08:22 PM   #25 (permalink)
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If Sanchez could last almost the whole fight with his subpar technique, then Frankie has a chance getting deep into the fight, and possibly getting a decision.
Very true, Frankie is a great overall athlete who has a more well-rounded game then Diego. Edgar has crisp striking with solid head movement, not that lunging straight right, straight left, straight right combo Sanchez throws while grunting.

Although still a huge underdog, i am almost positive this fight will be far more entertaining then BJ against Diego/Florian.
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If Sanchez could last almost the whole fight with his subpar technique, then Frankie has a chance getting deep into the fight, and possibly getting a decision.
I don't think that Edgar has the heart that Diego has at all. Diego would never quit at all. I mean he was pumped up in round 4 after he was already beaten badly. Diego's work ethic and heart are on another level than Edgar's. I do think that Edgar's technique is better but I don't think he could take the punishment that Diego took.
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You mean Edgar, like every other 155er in the universe, is not as good as BJ.
Frankie does have better pure boxing than both KFlo, and Diego.(Overall standup he is pretty much even with Kflo)
Wrestling wise he is better than Kflo, and a lil bit better than Diego.
But like every other figh, Edgar probaly wont be able to get Bj to the ground, and wont have as good as boxing as Bj.
He does have tools, that if he comes in with a great game plan, he could make it an interesting fight. But yes, he will probaly lose.
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BJ has a ******* MEAN jab, but I wouldn't say he has some of the best hands in MMA. His hands are good, for sure, but it's been a while since he's faced a good, technical boxer with good TDD and some pretty good sub defense at that. As I said, BJ wins this fight, probably 4 out of 5 times, but Edgar has a better chance than BJs last three opponents did. Kenny had a good shot but he blew it being a moron, I'm hoping Frankie doesn't make that mistake. BJ is a fantastic fighter, don't get me wrong, but he's also the most beaten champion in the UFC right now, so it isn't like he's inhuman.
Not only some of the best hands, but he has head movement. That is key to his boxing, he uses head movement better than most people in MMA and that helps him to slip punches and counter.

How many times has BJ lost at lightweight? Just once, to Jens Pulver, wasn't it?

I don't think BJ wins 4/5 times, I think he wins 99/100 times.

He'll out strike Edgar all day long, and he sure as hell isn't getting taken down.
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I think Edgar is going to try the Kenny Florian gameplan since that's how he fights. He likes to use his boxing and run circles around his opponents; his fight against Sherk bored me to death.
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I think Edgar is going to try the Kenny Florian gameplan since that's how he fights. He likes to use his boxing and run circles around his opponents; his fight against Sherk bored me to death.
Really? I really dug that fight.
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