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post #11 of 54 (permalink) Old 01-22-2010, 08:27 AM
 
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Edgar.

Hardy can land that one big shot and put GSP away. Edgar is out matched in every facet of the game, and doesn't have the power to (T)KO Penn.






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I'd say Edgar's more of an underdog. At least Dan's got a chance of beating GSP on the feet, I don't see anyway for Edgar to beat BJ on the feet, and he will get outclassed on the ground, much easier win for BJ I think. Edgar's got some good boxing skills, but BJ's one of the best boxers in MMA, and I see him picking Edgar apart on the feet.

I think people are seriously under-rating Dan Hardy. He's a talented striker, that's training his Muay Thai down at Team Rough House with Paul Daley and the trainers down there. He's also training his Jiu Jitsu with Eddie Bravo, recently getting a purple belt from Bravo; and he's trained his boxing with Freddie Roach down at Wildcard Boxing Gym. He's a talented guy. I don't realistically see him beating GSP, but you never know in MMA, I'd love to see Hardy shock the world.

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Edgar.

Hardy can land that one big shot and put GSP away. Edgar is out matched in every facet of the game, and doesn't have the power to (T)KO Penn.
This, I mean the are both outclassed in every aspect but Hardy throws bombs so he is more likely to land a hail mary knock out, Edgar although I believe closer in skill to BJ than Hardy is to GSP is not better at anything than BJ and has not shown the ability to finish fights which is why the nod has to go to Hard.




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Edgar.

I do not believe Edgar can finish penn in any fashion. However, dan hardy can KO gsp. I think both will lose but, if I had to look at odds on both fights I say Hardy has way more of a chance to beat gsp than edgar penn.



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I do not believe Edgar can finish penn in any fashion. However, dan hardy can KO gsp. I think both will lose but, if I had to look at odds on both fights I say Hardy has way more of a chance to beat gsp than edgar penn.
All i can see in the Dan Hardy vs GSP is 1st round GSP takes him down, either he wil finish it or the round will end..... If Thiago Alves a guy bigger then Hardy with easily as good or better ground game couldn't get up.... How is Hardy....

Think of it this way, could Hardy hold down Alves or would Alves hold Hardy down.... Obvious to me....

Now i think GSP will easily be able to do more to Hardy on the ground then he was with Alves...

And the Bj fight i totally agree on the fact i don't see Edger being able to do ANYTHING i mean Bj is literally better in EVERY aspect. But i don't think Bj is going to be able to just hold him down and deliver nasty GnP like GSP is going to do to Hardy... He might! But i give Franky a little more credit then that... We'll see

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As mentioned before, Bj has never even really been rocked in a fight. Edgar has very good hands, but he doesnt pack a whole ton of power. I just really dont see anyway that he can beat Bj. I think Hardy shouldnt be as much of an underdog as people are making him out to be. He made a very good Mike Swick look very amateur. He has a ton of power and is a very big welterweight. He also trains like a madman and is gonna come into this fight as the best version of himself that we have ever seen by a long shot. Would I be willing to put money on him to beat GSP? No, but will I be shocked if he wins? Not really.
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All i can see in the Dan Hardy vs GSP is 1st round GSP takes him down, either he wil finish it or the round will end..... If Thiago Alves a guy bigger then Hardy with easily as good or better ground game couldn't get up.... How is Hardy....

Think of it this way, could Hardy hold down Alves or would Alves hold Hardy down.... Obvious to me....

Now i think GSP will easily be able to do more to Hardy on the ground then he was with Alves...

And the Bj fight i totally agree on the fact i don't see Edger being able to do ANYTHING i mean Bj is literally better in EVERY aspect. But i don't think Bj is going to be able to just hold him down and deliver nasty GnP like GSP is going to do to Hardy... He might! But i give Franky a little more credit then that... We'll see

Total guess and my personal opinion on what is going to happen, idk maybe its just me
Oh I think edgar has a way better chance to take it to a decision than hardy. But I can fathom hardy winning by luck/fluke, with edgar I cannot.



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I say Edgar. Not because Hardy is a better fighter than him, Edgar has proven much more and I have a ton of respect for him, but because there is absolutely no way he can beat BJ.
He wont win a grappling match, his boxing isnt as good as BJ's, and he doesnt have the power to KO BJ if he catches him.

Yes I know Hardy will get thrown around like a ragdoll, but I still see his KO power as giving him a better chance than Frankie.

Poor guys, their both gonna get owned. But Im betting the house on Penn regardless of the odds.
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hardy has a punchers chance. edgar has a punchers chance at a punchers chance.lol.if that makes sense?

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This, I mean the are both outclassed in every aspect but Hardy throws bombs so he is more likely to land a hail mary knock out, Edgar although I believe closer in skill to BJ than Hardy is to GSP is not better at anything than BJ and has not shown the ability to finish fights which is why the nod has to go to Hard.
I agree. I believe that Edgar is the bigger underdog. Well put.


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