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Old 01-28-2010, 04:49 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I somewhat agree. But being the champ you need to fight contenders... Contenders being Fedor, which is something he doesn't want to do. (I don't blame him) But if he doesn't want to defend the belt. He shouldn't have it. Period.
Exactly. He should either fight fedor or be stripped. I think another reason he doesn't fight in america to defend... is that he is using banned substances. I could be wrong, I dunno.
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But that was K-1 and not MMA. It seems like Strikeforce knows there champ sucks, or else Fedor would be fighting him and not Werdum.. Fedor deserves to be the champ, SF needs to get there shit straight.
to be fair he signed a 1 fight/night deal and walked out with the SFHW championship. He didnt resign until mid 09 and tbh at that time they didnt have the talent to challenge him any way. Im going to assume hes trying to finish his Dream/K-1 contract before going to SF again. Either way SF should have created a interim belt which if my memory serves me correctly they havent.
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I can't deny he's been mauling cans for the past 2 years in mma.. Whats most impressive to me is that he KO'd badr hari, took remy bonjasky to a decision and beat peter aerts. If you haven't seen those fights give em a watch. I started liking him more after seeing him, especially against remy.
If he survived Remy he's worth a second and third look with regard to the UFC, unless his ground game isn't worth a shit.
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Overeem is a prolific steroid user. Sorry to some, but this is an obvious fact. Its funny, because I thought he was a much more dynamic striker before he packed on all that unnecessary muscle and excessive water weight. Its an obvious reason why he wont fight inside the US and why he has not fought for Strikeforce in so long.

Most people know what changes happen to the human body once one stops using performance enhancing drugs. Especially anabolic ones where the body's natural testosterone is shut down. Couple that with the mental issues such as depression it is a recipe for failure. It is most likely the primary reason for the lackluster performances of some who made the transition from Japan to US organizations that test regularly for performance enhancers.

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Overeem is a prolific steroid user. Sorry to some, but this is an obvious fact. Its funny, because I thought he was a much more dynamic striker before you packed on all that unnecessary muscle and excessive water weight. Its an obvious reason why he wont fight inside the US and why he has not fought for Strikeforce in so long.

Most people know what changes happen to the human body once one stops using performance enhancing drugs. Especially anabolic ones where the body's natural testosterone is shut down. Couple that with the mental issues such as depression it is a recipe for failure. It is most likely the primary reason for the lackluster performances of some who made the transition from Japan to US organizations that test regularly for performance enhancers.
That's a safe assumption IMO. But I read on here all the time that if a fighter cycles carefully, he won't get caught.
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That's a safe assumption IMO. But I read on here all the time that if a fighter cycles carefully, he won't get caught.
Yea if you cycle correctly you shouldnt be caught, in high school tons of football players used. But people give steroids a bad name. It just depends on the kind, the person and how much.

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Yea if you cycle correctly you shouldnt be caught, in high school tons of football players used. But people give steroids a bad name. It just depends on the kind, the person and how much.

http://steroidssavedmylife.blogspot.com/
This depends on many factors. I certainly do not wish to sound arrogant...but I have a good deal of knowledge when it comes to steroids. Steroids when used carefully and moderately with proper post cycle therapy can be done relatively safely depending on what one uses. If one were to look at Overeem's growth it would be accurate to assume he has used quite a lot and most likely stayed on cycle for well past the 10 week limits. I would guess that Overeem uses steroids on a regular basis and it has become pretty much a part of his everyday life.

If he were to suddenly stop or limit that amount in order to pass screening he would probably suffer more mentally and physically. If you understand what I am saying. Steroids do a lot more then build muscle. They have a strong effect on ones psyche. Fact is very few know the proper protocol for good post cycle therapy or PCT. Without it one could suffer from numerous side effects. Everyone knows that fighting is more mental then physical and this is why I believe so many have those lackluster performances when they transfer from Japan to the US.
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I Really don't know what to think about him . he's improved in the last 2 years and looked alot better at HW than LHW .
but he usually beat only cans , so it's hard to estimate how he will do in the UFC .
If Overeem wants to fight Fedor like he quoted in the article than why not fight him now? Why wait? Then after that quote he says he still got 8 years left...sounds to me like he wants to get Fedor on the decline.

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He's clearly ducking Fedor, he only fights cans all year long. He's going to UFC to duck Fedor, but he's only going to get someone else good. Either way we will all see how junk Overeem is
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I think thats really true, he just doesn't wanna fight him yet. Maybe he counts on time.. who knows, only he! He knows where Fedor would destroy him. He might not feel ready for him, but who can blame him for that.. right?!

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I can't deny he's been mauling cans for the past 2 years in mma.. Whats most impressive to me is that he KO'd badr hari, took remy bonjasky to a decision and beat peter aerts. If you haven't seen those fights give em a watch. I started liking him more after seeing him, especially against remy.
I saw those fights as well and he really looked great. But if he has to fight Badr Hari again, he will lose! Also his decision loss to Bonjasky was correct.

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Overeem is a prolific steroid user. Sorry to some, but this is an obvious fact. Its funny, because I thought he was a much more dynamic striker before he packed on all that unnecessary muscle and excessive water weight. Its an obvious reason why he wont fight inside the US and why he has not fought for Strikeforce in so long.

I would guess that Overeem uses steroids on a regular basis and it has become pretty much a part of his everyday life.
I truly believe that this is true what you are saying. He does use steroids on a regular basis wich makes it probably impossible for him to compete in the states. His change over the last years from 205 to 270 is so immense, I doupt he would look that way if he wouldn't.
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he should go to ufc, seems he's ducking fedor but atleast he may have a more stacked division in ufc rather than stay in SF
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