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View Poll Results: Strikeforce vs. UFC, who wins?

UFC easily 102 83.61%
Strikeforce easily 0 0%
UFC, but its close 14 11.48%
Strikeforce, but its close 2 1.64%
Tied 4 3.28%
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Old 01-29-2010, 01:23 PM   #11 (permalink)
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So I guess anyone that votes the UFC is brainwashed, I guess you have your answer then... SF wins because you say so.
I didnt say EVERYONE who thinks this way is brainwashed. I actually said I think sometimes people can becomee brainwashed by what they hear all the time while watching the UFC I might add.. (UFC IS TOP ORG) blah blah.

If you took it the wrong way and thought I meant you were brainwashed than I apologize...wasnt trying to make those allegations at all.
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Old 01-29-2010, 01:24 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Shields has a 'much more impressive' resume than Silva? Seriously? Shields has notable wins over Miller, Daley, Condit, Okami, Thompson and Lawler. That's hardly a mega impressive list of top tier fighters, especially when you consider that Silva's beaten Franklin twice, Henderson, Marquardt, Cote, Leben, Leites and Griffin. That's a better list of wins AFAIC.
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Old 01-29-2010, 01:26 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Shields has a 'much more impressive' resume than Silva? Seriously? Shields has notable wins over Miller, Daley, Condit, Okami, Thompson and Lawler. That's hardly a mega impressive list of top tier fighters, especially when you consider that Silva's beaten Franklin twice, Henderson, Marquardt, Cote, Leben, Leites and Griffin. That's a better list of wins AFAIC.
Chris Leben is an impressive win? Seriously?
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SF TOP HW

Fedor
Overeem
Werdum
Rogers
Silva

UFC TOP HW

Lesnar
Mir
JDS
Nog
Velasquez
Velasquez > Silva (Silva would get ragdolled)
Nog > Rogers (LOL)
JDS > Werdum (obviously)
Mir > Overeem (you could debate this one)
Lesnar ? Fedor

Hate to shatter your reality but the rest of the divisions wouldn't be this close.

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Chris Leben is an impressive win? Seriously?
He was undefeated in the UFC at the time, and I give him a good shot vs Lawler any day.
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I didnt say EVERYONE who thinks this way is brainwashed. I actually said I think sometimes people can becomee brainwashed by what they hear all the time while watching the UFC I might add.. (UFC IS TOP ORG) blah blah.
But Stokes my friend you can't argue that! Because it's a fact that the UFC is better. Only guys who hate this organization would say anything else!
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Velasquez > Silva (Silva would get ragdolled)
Nog > Rogers (LOL)
JDS > Werdum (obviously)
Mir > Overeem (you could debate this one)
Lesnar ? Fedor

Hate to shatter your reality but the rest of the divisions wouldn't be this close.
Did you not see the part of my post where I sad matchups would be key? And first of all I disagree with some of those. Werdum/JDS would be a much better fight 2nd time around I dont see JDS catching him like that again.. Nog wouldnt beat Rogers (LOL) easily at all. If Brett could keep it standing he would knock Nog out for sure but I would rather see Rogers fight JDS and Nog fight Werdum..

So lets do it like this:

Nog vs. Werdum
Rogers vs. JDS
Overeem vs. Lesnar
Mir vs. Fedor
Silva vs. Velasquez

Looks a lot different now doesnt it?

And to answer to Bobby's post, I do NOT, and repeat, DO NOT, hate the UFC by any means. I love watching the UFC, just as I do Strikeforce. I am an MMA fan though, not a UFC fan.
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The nature of the win was more impressive than the name, but Leben was seen as a real top quality prospect before that fight. He was on a 6 fight win streak and unbeaten in the UFC, with wins over Cote and Rivera. He's not a top tier fighter, but he's not far off the level of Shields' most impressive victories tbf.

Not really. Nog would beat Werdum, JDS would beat Rogers, Lesnar would beat Overeem and I'd back Velasquez to beat Silva. Only win for Strikeforce comes from Fedor.
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And to answer to Bobby's post, I do NOT, and repeat, DO NOT, hate the UFC by any means. I love watching the UFC, just as I do Strikeforce. I am an MMA fan though, not a UFC fan.
I know that Stokes^^ I didn't say that you hate the UFC, it's just if you think that SF devisions are better than you either hate the UFC or you are blind

Because it's actually a fact! SF can't be there where the UFC is right now, just look when they started. It's just not fair to compare those two organizations with each other.
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Did you not see the part of my post where I sad matchups would be key?
Why does Strikeforce deserve to get the best matchups in any competition?

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.Nog wouldnt beat Rogers (LOL) easily at all. If Brett could keep it standing he would knock Nog out for sure
For sure eh, well i know who ill be asking for predictions on the next card... not you.

So lets do it like this:

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Rogers vs. JDS
Overeem vs. Lesnar
Mir vs. Fedor
Silva vs. Velasquez

Looks a lot different now doesnt it?
No, it doesn't, Nog would beat Werdum, probably on the feet, JDS is an undefeated kickboxer and Rogers has no technique, Lesnar vs Overeem would look alot like Lesnar/Mir 2, and Silva is the weakest of all of them IMO, and Velasquez is a beast.

Thanks for playing though.
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kind of an odd thread, but ill put my two cents in

HW= Fedor vs Lesnar- too unpredictable, see any of the million threads about this.

LHW= Machida vs Mousasi- I would have to give this to Machida, but again, very unpredictable

MW= Shields vs Silva- Shields gets his shit pushed in

WW= Diaz/Zaromskis vs GSP- GSP beats either of them at this point IMO

LW= Penn vs Melendez- Penn wins anywhere he wants.

Thats just the champs, and honestly this is the only format Strikeforce could be competitive in, if you faced off the top five or ten fighters in each weightclass, Strikeforce wouldn't have the depth to compete.

UFC has the bigger roster and alot of the Strikeforce fighters are UFC castoffs. If Strikeforce continues to grow the way they are now, this could be way more competitive in a year or two.
Good post.
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