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Old 02-15-2010, 09:24 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I don't see Bisping ever holding a belt, I just don't think he has the quality to get that far.

Hardy will lose to GSP, unfortunately, but I think he is going to be awesome in the division, just can't get past number 1 contender spot.

Daley is a beast, I think the guy is a knob personally, but his hands are awesome, I really would like to see him in trouble on his back though, so we know what he can do on the ground. If he misses weight again, I'm going to be pissed, that annoys the hell out of me when fighters do that, no excuse.

Now Pearson, he's the man, I am so bias, but the dude is great. His hands looked AWESOM against Riley and I don't think Silver is going to be a problem for him either.

Etim I also enjoy and am looking forward to him in future - Dude can finish fights with his fists or submissions.
Why dont you like Daley? He doesnt make a habit of missing weight, infact i believe that was his first time and he had a perfectly valid reason. He seems like a decent guy to me, apologised straight away after his post fight antics against Hazlett.

What about Andre Winner? I think he is an exciting prospect too. Pearson was looking sharp in his last fight, when is he fighting next?
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What about Andre Winner? I think he is an exciting prospect too. Pearson was looking sharp in his last fight, when is he fighting next?
He is fighting Dennis Siver in one of the UFC Fight Nights at the end of March, on the Kenny vs Gomi card
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He is fighting Dennis Siver in one of the UFC Fight Nights at the end of March, on the Kenny vs Gomi card
Cheers. Look forward to seeing it, im looking forward to that entire card tbh, should be good.
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I'm from Sunderland so obviously my reasons for wanting to see Pearson succeed are a bit closer to home (pun intended), but i genuinely think we have a good pool of fighters right now, outside the US and Brazil i think we fair just aswell or even better than anyone else (Canadiens and Japanese included).

Apologies for forgetting Etim btw, this discussion is for all UK or Ireland fighters.

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Come on lads what about John Hathaway. The guy just turned 21 and is 3-0 in the UFC against below average competition.
He is a big guy for 170 and he put a wrestling clinic on Paul Taylor in his last fight.
He trains out of Brighton so his camp seems to be below par, some kind of seaside guys. His camp may be good who knows. Imagine if he joined Greg jacksons or even Wolfslair.
The UFC have given him a horrible matchup against Diego Sanchez next, when they should be letting him develop and give him some publicity. I say watchout for this guy in the next few years. This coming from a K1 fan.
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Bisping - Good heart, solid kickboxing and was the UK Posterboy for quite awhile Hardy Boy and Daley showed up. I'm not sure if he'll ever beat anybody within the top 5 category but he is a player in the division and there are quite a lot of interesting match ups for him.

Hardy - Love his winning attitude. Versatile fighter with ultra confidence, which I would say is the key to his success lately. Loves the pre fight banter and is very good at it. Do not see him besting the demon that is GSP, but you can never say never.

Daley - Powerful excellent striker with a lot of devasting technique. I'd say he is the SECOND best prospect out of the Brit invasion. A wealth of MMA experience should ensure he stays around for a long time. Claims his TDD and ground game have improved leaps and bounds but only his biggest fight of his career in The Koscheck will truly answer those questions.

Pearson - Violent little bastard. Explosive, unrelentess and aims to mentally break down the opponent before going for the big finish. Thing is though, he is in a very competitive division and I know next to nothing on his ground game, which is somewhat worrying because theres a lot of good BJJ guys at LW. He is young so will no doubt improve on that area regardless.

Ok so notice how I said that Daley was the 2nd best prospect? Well for me 1st the best prospect out of the brits belongs to one Winner. Andre Winner. I know i've said it before but i'm not kidding when I say that the kid is the next Anderson Silva.

In 3 years he'll be talked about the same way guys like GSP, Silva and Fedor are talked about now. He'll be a contender for that p4p status. Amazing muay thai striking, ridiculously athletic, underrated BJJ, very good chin and off the charts TDD. I honestly don't see anybody that isn't a Penn or Florian bothering him too much. He isn't too experienced yet, but the attributes he possess pretty much makes him a lock as a badman imo.

Thing is, outside of fighting, Dre Winner does come across as somewhat dull (hence why he got the least screen time out of all the other contestants on TUF 9), so he is a little bit harder to market than Hardy and Daley. But as he slowly makes his way to contender status, i'm sure he'll be saying things louder and prouder than ever.
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Why dont you like Daley? He doesnt make a habit of missing weight, infact i believe that was his first time and he had a perfectly valid reason. He seems like a decent guy to me, apologised straight away after his post fight antics against Hazlett.

What about Andre Winner? I think he is an exciting prospect too. Pearson was looking sharp in his last fight, when is he fighting next?
I don't like Daley because of his arrogance - I know the other Brits are similar, but they seem to be having a laugh and a bit of banter, Daley seems to think his shit smells sweeter than most!

As for missing weight, I don't care how many times you do it, even if it is the once. I have an issue with Rumble because of it too.

It's your job, make weight - Simple. If you can't make weight, move up a weight class!
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Bisping - Good heart, solid kickboxing and was the UK Posterboy for quite awhile Hardy Boy and Daley showed up. I'm not sure if he'll ever beat anybody within the top 5 category but he is a player in the division and there are quite a lot of interesting match ups for him.

Hardy - Love his winning attitude. Versatile fighter with ultra confidence, which I would say is the key to his success lately. Loves the pre fight banter and is very good at it. Do not see him besting the demon that is GSP, but you can never say never.

Daley - Powerful excellent striker with a lot of devasting technique. I'd say he is the SECOND best prospect out of the Brit invasion. A wealth of MMA experience should ensure he stays around for a long time. Claims his TDD and ground game have improved leaps and bounds but only his biggest fight of his career in The Koscheck will truly answer those questions.

Pearson - Violent little bastard. Explosive, unrelentess and aims to mentally break down the opponent before going for the big finish. Thing is though, he is in a very competitive division and I know next to nothing on his ground game, which is somewhat worrying because theres a lot of good BJJ guys at LW. He is young so will no doubt improve on that area regardless.

Ok so notice how I said that Daley was the 2nd best prospect? Well for me 1st the best prospect out of the brits belongs to one Winner. Andre Winner. I know i've said it before but i'm not kidding when I say that the kid is the next Anderson Silva.

In 3 years he'll be talked about the same way guys like GSP, Silva and Fedor are talked about now. He'll be a contender for that p4p status. Amazing muay thai striking, ridiculously athletic, underrated BJJ, very good chin and off the charts TDD. I honestly don't see anybody that isn't a Penn or Florian bothering him too much. He isn't too experienced yet, but the attributes he possess pretty much makes him a lock as a badman imo.

Thing is, outside of fighting, Dre Winner does come across as somewhat dull (hence why he got the least screen time out of all the other contestants on TUF 9), so he is a little bit harder to market than Hardy and Daley. But as he slowly makes his way to contender status, i'm sure he'll be saying things louder and prouder than ever.
Think your getting a bit giddy about Winner there. After all, Pearson did beat him in the final. I dont see him being the same calibre fighter as Silva or any thing, but he does have a great future.

I dont think Daley is arrogant. Seems a little cocky, but you can tell he definetley respects his opponents and from the countdown show and other interviews he just seems alright to me. He missed out on days of weight cutting because of a travelling problem, that is excusable. Johnson has missed weight on several ocassions though, daley just once, that is the difference. Im guessing you feel the same about Thiago Alves as well.
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I just think there is NO excuse for it.

I don't want to go off on a tangant, but seriously - if a fighter CHOOSES not to walk around at his fighting weight, or CHOOSES to fight in a weight class that lower than his weight then he has the responsibility to DO HIS JOB and weigh in.

I think my opinions are stronger than most, I would personally fine them 50% on the first time missing weight and if it happens again, release them. That's how serious I think it is.
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I'm from Sunderland so obviously my reasons for wanting to see Pearson succeed are a bit closer to home (pun intended), but i genuinely think we have a good pool of fighters right now, outside the US and Brazil i think we fair just aswell or even better than anyone else (Canadiens and Japanese included).

Apologies for forgetting Etim btw, this discussion is for all UK or Ireland fighters.
I'm from the UK, Kent to be exact, and since the Aaron Riley fight I seriously believe Pearson is going places, he reminds me of W.Silva back in his prime with his aggressive style and good clinch work with the Knees, he has really good power in his kicks also for a LW, really good cardio and excellent foot work and speed.

Can't wait to see his next fight, that fight I think will tell us a lot, if he comes out ever improving as he has been since TUF fairly soon from now he will be a serious force in the LW division.

I think a great fight for him would be Tyson Griffin, I rate Tyson he is another fantastic prospect in that division to be a future title threat, but he don't move as good as Pearson imo so I think it would be a really good stylistic match up for him and a real test of his skills, not to mention I think it would be a great match to watch for the fans, Tyson vs Person would be a relentless war where I don't think ether fighter would gas no matter what the pass over 3 rounds.

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