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post #21 of 43 (permalink) Old 02-15-2010, 10:20 AM
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I think a great fight for him would be Tyson Griffin
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post #22 of 43 (permalink) Old 02-15-2010, 10:21 AM
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I think most of the posters are spot on?
Daley is easily the most explosive, Hardy is a close second .
Then comes Ross Pearson who is very well rounded.
As for Bisping, this fight with Wand is a make or break fight for his career.
Bisping definately needs to improve his power, all his other MMA game is sound, if not spectacular.
GSP is going to destroy Hardy in 2 rounds unless Hardy catches him with a big shot.
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Many its to early to tell, Hardy is about to peak, he got an easy rise to the title and I don't think he will ever get another chance, he will continue to bounce around being heavily over valued due to that one time he fought GSP. Daley looks nasty but the only thing we know is he will always be a viscous striker. I think Daley will do well but I don't see him as a champion ever. I think Daley will beat some top guys and pick up some losses, he might get a title shot eventually although I expect Kos to derail him in his next fight.

Bisping looked very impressive in his last fight, that said I don't think he is a great fighter, never have although I really need to see more of his new found wrestling prowess to see if he really is as good as he looked in his last fight.

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post #24 of 43 (permalink) Old 02-15-2010, 12:12 PM
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I think we are a few years away from having a elite fighter like BJ, Anderson ect. But i think we are well on the way there. We have (at least) 3 world class camps/gyms over here already in Team Rough house, Wolfslair and London Shootfighters and they are getting better and better all the time. Judging by the batch of fighters we have in the UFC right now who are title contenders, the next batch will be awesome maybe even championship caliber.

bare in mind MMA is not even that popular over here yet and 99% of the smaller orgs are run by thugs, we still have a long way to come yet.

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I think we are a few years away from having a elite fighter like BJ, Anderson ect. But i think we are well on the way there. We have (at least) 3 world class camps/gyms over here already in Team Rough house, Wolfslair and London Shootfighters and they are getting better and better all the time. Judging by the batch of fighters we have in the UFC right now who are title contenders, the next batch will be awesome maybe even championship caliber.

bare in mind MMA is not even that popular over here yet and 99% of the smaller orgs are run by thugs, we still have a long way to come yet.
Good point. MMA's still not really popular at all down here, probably due to the lack of mainstream exposure. The BBC don't cover MMA at all (I actually e-mailed them asking why, considering they cover Boxing, but unsurprisingly didn't get a reply), Sky Sports have only ever shown 1 MMA show I believe, and that was only because Alex Reid was fighting and Jordan attended; and the only journalist putting out regular MMA news stories is Gareth A Davies. The UFC are starting to get a bit more exposure due to ESPN, but MMA is yet to gain any real mainstream exposure.

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post #26 of 43 (permalink) Old 02-15-2010, 05:22 PM
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Bisping - Good heart, solid kickboxing and was the UK Posterboy for quite awhile Hardy Boy and Daley showed up. I'm not sure if he'll ever beat anybody within the top 5 category but he is a player in the division and there are quite a lot of interesting match ups for him.

Hardy - Love his winning attitude. Versatile fighter with ultra confidence, which I would say is the key to his success lately. Loves the pre fight banter and is very good at it. Do not see him besting the demon that is GSP, but you can never say never.

Daley - Powerful excellent striker with a lot of devasting technique. I'd say he is the SECOND best prospect out of the Brit invasion. A wealth of MMA experience should ensure he stays around for a long time. Claims his TDD and ground game have improved leaps and bounds but only his biggest fight of his career in The Koscheck will truly answer those questions.

Pearson - Violent little bastard. Explosive, unrelentess and aims to mentally break down the opponent before going for the big finish. Thing is though, he is in a very competitive division and I know next to nothing on his ground game, which is somewhat worrying because theres a lot of good BJJ guys at LW. He is young so will no doubt improve on that area regardless.

Ok so notice how I said that Daley was the 2nd best prospect? Well for me 1st the best prospect out of the brits belongs to one Winner. Andre Winner. I know i've said it before but i'm not kidding when I say that the kid is the next Anderson Silva.

In 3 years he'll be talked about the same way guys like GSP, Silva and Fedor are talked about now. He'll be a contender for that p4p status. Amazing muay thai striking, ridiculously athletic, underrated BJJ, very good chin and off the charts TDD. I honestly don't see anybody that isn't a Penn or Florian bothering him too much. He isn't too experienced yet, but the attributes he possess pretty much makes him a lock as a badman imo.

Thing is, outside of fighting, Dre Winner does come across as somewhat dull (hence why he got the least screen time out of all the other contestants on TUF 9), so he is a little bit harder to market than Hardy and Daley. But as he slowly makes his way to contender status, i'm sure he'll be saying things louder and prouder than ever.
And I hope this remains. If Winner, Pearson, Etim and Hathaway go on to be successful fighters, I hope each one stays humble and doesn't have to talk their way into to spotlight. The arrogance of the current top British fighters is getting tedious, it's time for a humble animal to arrive.

I think Daley could be a champ if he devlops Liddell like TDD and scrambling. I think Hardy wont because although he is good, he's not great in any area, and could be controlled by wrestlers. Bisping will never be a champion as he has no punching power and doesn't pose much of a submission threat.

Looking forward to seeing more of the less known Brits, not a huge fan of any of the current top 3. I am a fan of Daley and Hardy as fighters, just not into their personalities much so not a complete 'fan' as such.

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post #27 of 43 (permalink) Old 02-15-2010, 07:23 PM
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A thread about UK fighters in the UFC, awesome!

Dan Hardy - Currently my favourite fighter in the UFC. He has a great personality and he just likes to joke about and not take himself too seriously like a lot of other guys. I think even he would admit to his rise in the UFC being extraordinary but he has four wins and he has cemented himself as a top six fighter at welterweight. Improves with every fight, expect the best Dan Hardy to step into the cage at UFC 111, even if he doesn't get bring home the belt.

Paul Daley - What a difference a year makes. Start of 2009 he was coming off a loss, then he picked up four straight knockout wins including stepping up on short notice to upset Kampmann and violently stopping Hazelett. Even if you don't like him you've got to respect him and what he brings to the table. One of the best strikers in MMA at the moment, he has the ability to put anyone to sleep. Ground game remains a weakness until we see him comfortably handle a top wrestler. He might get his chance to show us what he has against Koscheck.

Michael Bisping - I do like the guy, even though 99% of other people don't. I get frustrated with his fighting style sometimes, when he mixes up his game and uses wrestling to go with his kickboxing he is a force, but when he tries to out point his opponent it can lead to him being negative. Another performance like the one against Kang would do him wonders.

Pearson - The sky is the limit after his last performance. He dominated a really experienced guy and if he carries on his level of improvement he could be a real prospect at 155.

Etim - This guy has a lot of potential. He was given tough guys like Clementi and Tibau at the start of his UFC career and lost both fights, but since then he has won four straight and his ju-jitsu has been sick. Just 24 years old, I predict big things.

Hathaway - Another very good prospect, it's just a shame he is going up against Diego Sanchez at this stage of his career. I can't see winning that one, but maybe it will be good for him like the Tibau and Clementi fights were good for Etim.

Pearson, Etim and Hathaway have the potential to be better than Hardy, Daley and Bisping imo. We'll have to see what happens.

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There is a Live British MMA tournament been show this Sunday Live on Bravo, run by BAMMA.

details can be found on the Bravo website

I agree that its hard to watch live MMA here you really need to subscribe to ESPN, I'm lucky that I live in a shared accommodation with 4 other guys, so we all chip in and have all the sports channels and a lot of PPV's, but I can't imagine many people over here have ESPN, most sports fans will just have Sky Sports so in order to hit a larger UK ordinance the UFC really needs to land a deal with Sky Sports
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post #29 of 43 (permalink) Old 02-15-2010, 09:03 PM
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Personally I see the hottest British prospect right now to be Hardy, however I don't think he's going to beat GSP. Still though, he's the only guy I see being champ out of the 4 brits. Daley is one-dimensional, Bisping does not have the skillset to compete with the top guys at MW (Silva, Marquardt, Sonnen, Maia), and lets face it - Pearson is in the most stacked division with the toughest guys (BJ Penn, Florian, Maynard, Edgar) and I don't think he'll be able to hang with them (now or later).

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post #30 of 43 (permalink) Old 02-15-2010, 09:11 PM
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I don't think we see any of them holding a belt in next 3 years. I can see Daley with the WW belt AFTER GSP moves up to MW permanently.

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