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Old 02-19-2010, 01:28 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Well it depends on what kind of fighter brock is now. Assuming the brock lesnar before his whole recent sick bout, he'd be hands down the only logical choice.
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Old 02-19-2010, 01:29 PM   #12 (permalink)
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JDS would clear 'em out. Stylistically he matches up well with everybody and he's got too good of a chin for anyone below HW to hurt him. He might not be as versatile as Shogun or as technical as Machida but his foot movement is the most unique in the game and he can put you down from anywhere.


If this was a tournament style competition I think Lesnar could be beat by a LHW like Shogun if they both had already had 2 fights or so. Lesnar's style isn't set up too well for one-day tournaments.
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Old 02-19-2010, 01:41 PM   #13 (permalink)
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JDS would clear 'em out. Stylistically he matches up well with everybody and he's got too good of a chin for anyone below HW to hurt him. He might not be as versatile as Shogun or as technical as Machida but his foot movement is the most unique in the game and he can put you down from anywhere.


If this was a tournament style competition I think Lesnar could be beat by a LHW like Shogun if they both had already had 2 fights or so. Lesnar's style isn't set up too well for one-day tournaments.
actually, Lesnar's style is setup perfectly for tournaments, any fighter with notable standup like shogun, has a risk of his face getting injured, while Brock hasnt even had a scratch on his face yet. Lesnar also has a lot of cardio...


You would think that Lesnar would finish most LHWs or lower in the 1st or 2nd round.
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actually, Lesnar's style is setup perfectly for tournaments, any fighter with notable standup like shogun, has a risk of his face getting injured, while Brock hasnt even had a scratch on his face yet. Lesnar also has a lot of cardio...


You would think that Lesnar would finish most LHWs or lower in the 1st or 2nd round.

It's still an exhausting style that's very predictable.
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very predicatable and yet GSP and Lesnar still get takedowns LOL!
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I'm thinking that guys like Machida would win something like this. Machida is big enough to fight the HW's, even a HW of Lesnar's size and still possibly win. Someone like Shogun, and as much as I hate to say it Anderson Silva. Brock would probably dominate most but I don't know if he could beat Lyoto.
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very predicatable and yet GSP and Lesnar still get takedowns LOL!
lmfao very true. GSP's takedowns are different in how they're setup and his willingness to stand and trade. But I've never seen a pure wrestler do well in a tournament is all.
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actually, Lesnar's style is setup perfectly for tournaments, any fighter with notable standup like shogun, has a risk of his face getting injured, while Brock hasnt even had a scratch on his face yet. Lesnar also has a lot of cardio...


You would think that Lesnar would finish most LHWs or lower in the 1st or 2nd round.
Couple things, first he's got FIVE fights, none with elite strikers. The only guy with any kind of striking game was Mir, who I don't think he could beat again. Mir looks driven and in shape now, not to mention Mir shook Lesnar with a knee in the second fight and if a fat, out of shape, uninterested Frank Mir can rock you, I don't see him getting through an elite level striker.

I'm not trying to bash Lesnar, but let's not just say the guy could win anything because he's big.
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The skill for wrestlers in past tournaments in no where near the skill where it is at in the UFC today.


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Couple things, first he's got FIVE fights, none with elite strikers. The only guy with any kind of striking game was Mir, who I don't think he could beat again. Mir looks driven and in shape now, not to mention Mir shook Lesnar with a knee in the second fight and if a fat, out of shape, uninterested Frank Mir can rock you, I don't see him getting through an elite level striker.

I'm not trying to bash Lesnar, but let's not just say the guy could win anything because he's big.
I wouldnt call him uninterested in that fight, He bulked up because he had no choice, he said he cant compete with Lesnar if he remains at his current size. I wouldnt say Lesnar's striking game is bad, He got hit with a good knee, if you get hit with a clean knee like that, you will most likely got rocked no matter who you are... I havent seen Lesnar get rocked in a pure standup match yet, but he also didnt face any power KO fighters like you said.

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Only joking mate, I reckon the only person who could beat Lesner is another massive heavyweight, anybody below his weightclass he beats.

So for me it's Lesner
I have a feeling Brock wouldn't have the chance to score a takedown against a few fighters in lower weight divisions because of their raw power. I think Rampage might be able to KO Brock, A.Silva probably could too. Other than that I totally agree, but if there is someone who could beat him from a lower weight class they'd have to be lightning fast and Flash KO Brock or just be extremely mobile (Machida?) to stay out of his way until they catch him. The one person in my mind who can do that (and probably WOULD) is Silva.


I say Silva wins free weight.

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very predicatable and yet GSP and Lesnar still get takedowns LOL!
GSP's style is NOT predictable in a fight. Sure you know what he's going to do, but you have no idea when, where or how. The entire reason his fighting style is so dominant because he keeps you guess constantly and just when you let your guard down by a LITTLE you're on your ass faster than you can realize what the hell just happened.

Brock, on the other hand, is horribly predictable and he telegraphs everything he does. Thing is that it doesn't matter because he's just such a beast.

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