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Old 02-19-2010, 12:59 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I'm sure I am going to get flamed, but how do we know what Mir's loss to Lesnar has done for his career yet? Yeah, he beat Kongo... I get it... But it's not like he's on a 3 win streak against contenders. IMO, Mir is less of a conteder today than he was before UFC 100.
It's not what has happened it's that it changed his mind set. Just like BJ, he learned that he needs to actually train and be in shape to win, and can't slack and still get victories.
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Old 02-19-2010, 01:02 PM   #12 (permalink)
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- St. Pierre's loss to Serra, for sure. And his loss to Hughes. He improved after each of those.

- Chuck's loss to Randy, because he worked on his footwork and angles and it served him very well.

- Tito's loss to Frank is another one, because he made conditioning a priority after that.

- Lytle's loss to Serra, because he started just going for it every time out and became one of the most exciting guys in the UFC.

- I'm not sure how much Wanderlei's loss to Tito helped him, but the dude didn't lose again for four years, and that was a controversial decision against a dude who outweighed him by like 150 pounds.

- I'm kind of with dav35 on the Mir thing. He has only fought once since Lesnar, getting the same kind of early submission he has always been famous for.
I'd say the Vera loss probably did more for him, as it was proof that the loss to Cruz wasn't a fluke and that he was going to have to work hard to become an elite heavyweight again.
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Old 02-19-2010, 01:06 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Chuck's recent loses, hes got to protect his face/chin better.

I don't think he needs to against Tito though, Chuck could smash Tito with one arm.
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It's not what has happened it's that it changed his mind set. Just like BJ, he learned that he needs to actually train and be in shape to win, and can't slack and still get victories.
Noted. However, I your mind set doesn't equate to wins. I'd argue that Mir's loss to Vera helped him for the better, but I still don't think we can say much about him losing to Lesnar.
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Old 02-19-2010, 01:20 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Noted. However, I your mind set doesn't equate to wins. I'd argue that Mir's loss to Vera helped him for the better, but I still don't think we can say much about him losing to Lesnar.
It's just how I see it. I think some people are really blowing it up, I mean it was Kongo that he beat, but I was more impressed by the shape he was in, he didn't look fat and bored in the cage.

You are right though, mindset doesn't translate to wins to ask Diego Sanchez.
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Silva losing to Chonan. The guy now has a BB in BJJ, and hasn't lost since.
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I think Lesnar losing to Mir. Since then, he has dominated.

GSP losing to Serra.

Rampage losing to Shogun.

Someone people don't think about is BJ losing to Pulver.
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Someone people don't think about is BJ losing to Pulver.
People forget that because Penn fought the death
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Anderson Silva losing to Okami. I don't think he's lost since.
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Serra's loss to Shonie Carter!
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