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post #31 of 37 (permalink) Old 02-23-2010, 05:30 PM
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My problem with Michael Bisping is the distinct lack of progession in his Mixed Martial Arts game. He's been talking a good game in the build up to his more recent fights, and been looking good in training, but he can't seem to translate that into fight performances. If you look at the way one of his earlier opponents has improved, Rashad Evans. Evans has gone from a straight wrestler to a well-rounded mixed martial artist, with impressive boxing to back up his high level wrestling, he's getting better and better. Bisping's not really added anything of note to his game, except marginally better wrestling and jiu-jitsu. His striking seems to have shown zero progression. He changed his stance to more of a boxing stance for the Silva fight, and we'd been hearing about his new found KO power, but where was it? Once again he looked gun-shy, scared to throw his power into his shots and the change only had aesthetic benefits.

I don't know what Mike can do to make it up to the next level. He seems to be improving technically in training, and we've seen that in his Countdown videos and from what we've been hearing from his camp, but he can't seem to put it together in a fight situation, which gives the impression that he actually hasn't improved. He's still beating the mid-level MW fighters, like he was early in his UFC career, but he never looks like handing a beating to a top level fighter. He's capable of sticking and moving and out-pointing opponents (he won the 1st round against Henderson, and was winning the Wandy fight until the last 20 seconds AFAIC), but he can't seem to get the job done, and is yet to convincingly beat a top level fighter.

As far as I can see, Bisping's issues must be mental. There must be something on a subconscious level that's stopping him putting his new found tools on the table against the top level of competition. I think he could really improve his game by getting a sport psychologist or even a sport hypnotherapist in to discover what exactly is stopping him upping his game and moving up to that next level. Moving camp could help to some extent, but if the mental fragilities are there (and I believe they are), then moving camp probably won't get him upto that next level and will only help him improve to a small extent.

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Did he call out Nate??? Or express an intrest even in fighting him, I mean Nate looked like shit against Chael, but I gotta believe he will beat Bisping.....not the best "call out" if Mike did so...IMHO...I also agree the circling and soft jabs for easy points arent gonna cut it, frankly that has gotten him as far as its going too.....I think coming over the pond and training here will be in his best intrests, I suspect he will need to lose a few more to have this reinfoced into his mind.....Im sure Randy could "tune him up a lil"....
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He should just train at rough house, all those guys are sick strikers and thats the area he needs work on.
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wrong quote fail. But yea, he should move to rough house. I dont like that dick head trainer of his at wolfslair either, the scouser whos always chatting shit about Bispings opponents.
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Double post but guys, you need to check this thread out. Maybe create a username and post some thing. I cant do this on my own. Jesus christ.

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What I don't understand is why so many people like Bisping? I understand casual fans just following the English fighter without much question, but hardcore fans on here who still praise him amazes me.

Let's face it, Bisping can be a prat at times, far from humble and can't back his mouth up. To add to that he just isn't that good of a fighter. Even if he plants his feet and trades he wont be hurting anyone with half a chin, because the issue is he lacks core strength and power. It couldn't be more evident. He can get takedowns with good technique, but can't keep anyone half decent there because of his lack of strength. A gassed out and surrendering Kang isn't evidence to disprove this.

Bisping hasn't got the strength or power that all top fighters have at least one of, in most cases both. He has good technique, not the best, but he'd be a contender if only he had some power or strength. His submission attempts are just shrugged off, his punches are weak and he can't keep fighters down unless they are lower competition.

I don't get why anyone has ever been a fan. Even if he wasn't a prat, he'd still be quite a tedious fighter with all his back peddling, I'm tired of seeing it.
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My problem with Michael Bisping is the distinct lack of progession in his Mixed Martial Arts game. He's been talking a good game in the build up to his more recent fights, and been looking good in training, but he can't seem to translate that into fight performances. If you look at the way one of his earlier opponents has improved, Rashad Evans. Evans has gone from a straight wrestler to a well-rounded mixed martial artist, with impressive boxing to back up his high level wrestling, he's getting better and better. Bisping's not really added anything of note to his game, except marginally better wrestling and jiu-jitsu. His striking seems to have shown zero progression. He changed his stance to more of a boxing stance for the Silva fight, and we'd been hearing about his new found KO power, but where was it? Once again he looked gun-shy, scared to throw his power into his shots and the change only had aesthetic benefits.

I don't know what Mike can do to make it up to the next level. He seems to be improving technically in training, and we've seen that in his Countdown videos and from what we've been hearing from his camp, but he can't seem to put it together in a fight situation, which gives the impression that he actually hasn't improved. He's still beating the mid-level MW fighters, like he was early in his UFC career, but he never looks like handing a beating to a top level fighter. He's capable of sticking and moving and out-pointing opponents (he won the 1st round against Henderson, and was winning the Wandy fight until the last 20 seconds AFAIC), but he can't seem to get the job done, and is yet to convincingly beat a top level fighter.

As far as I can see, Bisping's issues must be mental. There must be something on a subconscious level that's stopping him putting his new found tools on the table against the top level of competition. I think he could really improve his game by getting a sport psychologist or even a sport hypnotherapist in to discover what exactly is stopping him upping his game and moving up to that next level. Moving camp could help to some extent, but if the mental fragilities are there (and I believe they are), then moving camp probably won't get him upto that next level and will only help him improve to a small extent.
I think you're completely missing the point.

The main issues are he doesn't have power, he doesn't have strength and he can't take a decent punch. How can he ever compete with the likes of Wandy, Hendo, Franklin, Marquardt, Sonnen, Maia, Belfort etc? There isn't some mental block causing a physical block, it's the other way round. His physical limitations cause the mental block and understandably so. If you couldn't hurt your opponent with a punch, couldn't sub them, couldn't take a punch from them would you then want to get in and trade in the pocket with Wanderlei Silva?

Bisping is not built to be a top tier fighter, simple as that.
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Sorry for bringing up old threads but I have really enjoyed reading this one again.
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Good bump

But maybe not Hardy v GSP? Maybe? That might be my favorite part
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