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Old 02-22-2010, 07:15 PM   #101 (permalink)
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UFC HW div is a Joke ,who is this Carwin person people keep talking about ? is he the one that was completely getting dominated by Gonzaga and then got one lucky punch in?
Yes dominated for 30 sec.

Then he KO'd him with one punch. Who was this Gonzaga? He's the guy that finished Cro Cop, the guy fedlor was no where near finishing.

Impressive. Not really, nor is Fedor's fight with Mirko.
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Yes dominated for 30 sec.

Then he KO'd him with one punch. Who was this Gonzaga? He's the guy that finished Cro Cop, the guy fedlor was no where near finishing.

Impressive. Not really, nor is Fedor's fight with Mirko.
Yup ur right Fedor vs CC was not impressive ?
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Calminian, you do realize that Rampage, Hendo and Shogun came from Pride, right? Are they inferior to UFC dudes as well? What is your prejudice vs. former Pride dudes. I think even some unknown dude Anderson Silva dabbled in Pride for a short while. You place persons like Carwin on a pedestal and Brock with his all impressive 4-1 record, while dismissing the accomplishments of the Pride guys? I realize that the sport has evolved since then and perhaps has bypassed some of the former champs, yet Hendo and Rua seem to be adapting quite nicely. It is OK to have polite discussions but you blatantly disrespect persons who disagree with you and then insult them with absolutely no basis for those insults. In addition you DID state multiple times that Grim would beat Fedor and all the Fedor fans would be crying here, then when Grim lost you stated that Grim "dominated" Fedor for most of the fight. Really? I at least admitted I was wrong to misjudge Cain, you WOULD NEVER admit you were wrong. You are the worst possible person in these forums. You never ever base arguments on facts just silly opinions. You sir, are the definition of TROLL.

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Yes dominated for 30 sec.

Then he KO'd him with one punch. Who was this Gonzaga? He's the guy that finished Cro Cop, the guy fedlor was no where near finishing.

Impressive. Not really, nor is Fedor's fight with Mirko.
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Okay.....after reading this whole thread and quoting a whole bunch of people this seems to be the easier way to handle things.....


Samborules your wasting your time against Calminian he has never ending non appreciation of Fedor, I have argued him to death, I suggest looking for him once Fedor fights next, and wins....he'll be nowhere in sight as someone on the thread already pointed out when Fedor waxed Rogers Calminian was long gone with nothing to say, even though he was as confident then as he is now.......time heals all wounds I guess....

At this point as much I and many feel Calminian is wrong, I will give him this, Fedor isn't getting younger and if he wants to silence critics like Calminian then he should do it sooner than later...

I think JDS looked just as entertaining and although it wasn't against NOG when he whipped Gilbert he looked very badass doing it....I believe JDS should fight Cain next and then the winner advances, Dana and the UFC however will prob not do this......why???? Cuz its better to let them each go down their own paths and sell two fighters instead of one...if JDS and Cain fought right now one goes back to the starting line with a loss, while the other advances to potentially fight the champ.....

If the UFC doesn't match them up they can market both Cain's and JDS's run at the belt.....I dont see JDS and Cain fighting next....

I also think its a step down at this point to give Cain Cro Cop.....the solution???????

Cain vs JDS...someone call Dana and ask him to stop being greedy......
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Old 02-23-2010, 09:08 AM   #108 (permalink)
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Okay.....after reading this whole thread and quoting a whole bunch of people this seems to be the easier way to handle things.....


Samborules your wasting your time against Calminian he has never ending non appreciation of Fedor, I have argued him to death, I suggest looking for him once Fedor fights next, and wins....he'll be nowhere in sight as someone on the thread already pointed out when Fedor waxed Rogers Calminian was long gone with nothing to say, even though he was as confident then as he is now.......time heals all wounds I guess....

At this point as much I and many feel Calminian is wrong, I will give him this, Fedor isn't getting younger and if he wants to silence critics like Calminian then he should do it sooner than later...

I think JDS looked just as entertaining and although it wasn't against NOG when he whipped Gilbert he looked very badass doing it....I believe JDS should fight Cain next and then the winner advances, Dana and the UFC however will prob not do this......why???? Cuz its better to let them each go down their own paths and sell two fighters instead of one...if JDS and Cain fought right now one goes back to the starting line with a loss, while the other advances to potentially fight the champ.....

If the UFC doesn't match them up they can market both Cain's and JDS's run at the belt.....I dont see JDS and Cain fighting next....

I also think its a step down at this point to give Cain Cro Cop.....the solution???????

Cain vs JDS...someone call Dana and ask him to stop being greedy......
I think if Dana wants them on separate paths there is nothing wrong with this:

Cain vs. Cro Cop (Mirko still has the name)
JDS vs. Roy Nelson (TUF Winner)

Step down? Maybe but they are nice "name" filler fights until the Mir/Brock/Carwin situation is resolved and maybe Duffee throws his name in there too and Maybe even Fedor?
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I think if Dana wants them on separate paths there is nothing wrong with this:

Cain vs. Cro Cop (Mirko still has the name)
JDS vs. Roy Nelson (TUF Winner)

Step down? Maybe but they are nice "name" filler fights until the Mir/Brock/Carwin situation is resolved and maybe Duffee throws his name in there too and Maybe even Fedor?

Oh I dont think Dana wouldn't do that for a sec, its just not really what we want, I mean the reality is they will hype CroCop up vs Cain and then when Cain smashes him(yes sorry Cro Cop fans but its over) then they will shit on CroCop and make statements that totally contradict the way they hyped him coming in....

I can totally see your scenario playing out, again its just not what we want, i also wouldn't mind flipping the fights like BC vs Cain and JDS vs Cro Cop actually that way gives a lil more legitimacy to the fights...

If Cro Cop were to beat Cain or JDS then what??? I know I'm just saying though??? Totally screw things up....plus if Country were to beat Cain or even JDS IMO his name would go right to title talk and I dont think thats warrented....

*scratches head*

Now I know why Dana is bald....
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Oh I dont think Dana wouldn't do that for a sec, its just not really what we want, I mean the reality is they will hype CroCop up vs Cain and then when Cain smashes him(yes sorry Cro Cop fans but its over) then they will shit on CroCop and make statements that totally contradict the way they hyped him coming in....

I can totally see your scenario playing out, again its just not what we want, i also wouldn't mind flipping the fights like BC vs Cain and JDS vs Cro Cop actually that way gives a lil more legitimacy to the fights...

If Cro Cop were to beat Cain or JDS then what??? I know I'm just saying though??? Totally screw things up....plus if Country were to beat Cain or even JDS IMO his name would go right to title talk and I dont think thats warrented....

*scratches head*

Now I know why Dana is bald....
JDS already beat Cro Cop, but rumor has it, Cro Cop has well decided to actually train now, LOL. So having an impressive striker face Cain would be cool, I agree, that once Cain takes him down its over. JDS vs. BC would be cool because BC is just funny and a ratings machine.

Its could be one of those wacky cards:

Cain ~ Mirko
JDS ~ BC
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