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Old 02-22-2010, 03:53 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Incredible, you throw out an insult and call it an opinion based on nothing? May as well call me a felon, since it as you said is not based on anything I wrote. Thanks for the insult though, it was very mature of you. Welcome to the forum.

Now to the facts, AA has wins over Sylvia, Buentello, Werdum, Rothwell, Roy Nelson, and out of his 15 wins, 11 were by KO and he is the former UFC champ. Not saying he is great but he is more legit than any competitor Carwin has beaten. As far as Fedor goes, until someone beats him its silly to call him overrated. But thats just my opinion.

Also Fedor was never in trouble in the Grim fight, you can watch 100 replays. He is solid an an MMA HOF. Yes its too bad he is not in the UFC but at least he is fighting.
I never said word about Fedor being overrated.

I was just putting my 2 cents in on the Rogers/Carwin debate...


Also, if you feel my comment was offensive than i am sorry, its just Fedor fans are like Raiders fans you say one bad thing about em and they want to fight about it.
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Old 02-22-2010, 03:58 PM   #52 (permalink)
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I never said word about Fedor being overrated.

I was just putting my 2 cents in on the Rogers/Carwin debate...


Also, if you feel my comment was offensive than i am sorry, its just Fedor fans are like Raiders fans you say one bad thing about em and they want to fight about it.
Not true, Raider fans root for a horrible team, LOL. Fedor is not horrible and you can call him whatever you like, I respect his skill set but don't think he is a deity. One thing about Fedor is that he has beaten everyone he has faced so until someone beats him I think he deserves his props. And fellow MMA dudes respect him. But I've been proven wrong before and am big enough to admit it, ask alizio.

Meanwhile, Calminian SPAMMED the boards before the CBS Strikeforce card stating that Grim would KO Fedor and when it didn't happen Calminian used the "close enough" debate. Its people like that...well that cause me to type unkind words, LOL.
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Not true, Raider fans root for a horrible team, LOL. Fedor is not horrible and you can call him whatever you like, I respect his skill set but don't think he is a deity. One thing about Fedor is that he has beaten everyone he has faced so until someone beats him I think he deserves his props. And fellow MMA dudes respect him. But I've been proven wrong before and am big enough to admit it, ask alizio.

Meanwhile, Calminian SPAMMED the boards before the CBS Strikeforce card stating that Grim would KO Fedor and when it didn't happen Calminian used the "close enough" debate. Its people like that...well that cause me to type unkind words, LOL.

I respect Fedor for his accomplishments, but i do think he would not fair as well in the UFC. Thats here nor there though, he is with Strikeforce and he deserves props for his wins.

I have no connection Calminian, as i stated i was just coming into the conversation at a point where i thought some more facts would be helpful. Again i apologize for my comment, it was uncalled for.
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I respect Fedor for his accomplishments, but i do think he would not fair as well in the UFC. Thats here nor there though, he is with Strikeforce and he deserves props for his wins.

I have no connection Calminian, as i stated i was just coming into the conversation at a point where i thought some more facts would be helpful. Again i apologize for my comment, it was uncalled for.
I actually tried to do that same thing. I gave Fedor props, said would would be victorious against several UFC opponents including Couture. I even said Fedor was once the best HW.

That's just not going to cut it with some Fedor enthusiasts, as you see how it went. And I would have argued for Carwin much like you did, but it would have gotten me nowhere.

And just so you know, I think you were a bit hard on Raider fans. I'm not one myself, but they're not as bad a Fedor fans.

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I respect Fedor for his accomplishments, but i do think he would not fair as well in the UFC. Thats here nor there though, he is with Strikeforce and he deserves props for his wins.

I have no connection Calminian, as i stated i was just coming into the conversation at a point where i thought some more facts would be helpful. Again i apologize for my comment, it was uncalled for.
I think Fedor would fare better than you think, but you may be right? I hope we find that out someday
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Neither Cain or carwin can be considered the best heavyweight in the world yet.. They have like one fight each against big names oponents.

Other than that its: Can1, can2 and the tomato can.

According to the UFC, Brock Lessnar is the best fighter in the world.. And so was Silvia.. Brock, Cain and Carwin has nothing on their record to even slightly suggest that they are the best. It seems these days it just takes fighting 2-3 times in the UFC for the UFC fanboys to jump around kissing and screaming "The best in the world", pretty much what happened in Brock Lessnars case.

None in the UFC Heavyweight division has as impressive record as Fedor, being undefeated, fighting so many top names in their prime. Brock won't be able to keep his belt for long, cus the reality is he isn't the best, and never was, he is a top HW 10 fighter, Cain/Carwing probably top 15. Fedor is still dominating. Fedor isn't ducking.. And still fighting top 5 guys. While Cain, Carwin for the most part isn't.
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I think Fedor would fare better than you think, but you may be right? I hope we find that out someday
i know Fedor is better then i give him credit for but thats mostly to piss "fedor is god" ppl off. he is clearly the best of all time. he moves like a cat and is good or great at every area of MMA.

i still think he can be beaten and Cain matches up aswell as anybody. he isnt coming in with a size gameplan either, he has skills in every area and is lightening fast as Fedor himself.


i would pay $500 to see this fight.

Here is something i wanna hit you in the head with tho, Cain is better now then Prime Nog, Prime Mirko and Prime Coleman so w.e win from the past u wanna bring up, like the rock would say IT DOESNT MATTER

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i know Fedor is better then i give him credit for but thats mostly to piss "fedor is god" ppl off. he is clearly the best of all time. he moves like a cat and is good or great at every area of MMA.

i still think he can be beaten and Cain matches up aswell as anybody. he isnt coming in with a size gameplan either, he has skills in every area and is lightening fast as Fedor himself.


i would pay $500 to see this fight.
Mir will beat Cain. I'm going to troll you with this message until it finally happens.

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Mir will beat Cain. I'm going to troll you with this message until it finally happens.

Or until Mods issue me an infraction...
Cool Story, Bro!!

ill be sure to put you on ignore if you do but have fun with it, hope it relieves stress and makes you believe in fairytales. Ask some Big Nog fans for fun facts... ill help you. Say things like

"Mirs boxing is world class"

"Mir has the best BJJ in the HW Division"

"Cain has never faced anybody like Mir"

"Cain is gonna get tapped as soon it as hits the ground"

"Cain has pillow hands and cant hurt Mir"

Just a few for you, if you really run out PM me but as i said you may be on ignore by then
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