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Old 02-22-2010, 04:24 PM   #61 (permalink)
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It's all yours, Dakota. Enjoy this riveting conversation about who's better, Carwin or Grim. I'd participate, but I have a sock drawer to rearrange.
Lol man, if your not going to provide facts for your claims just shut it.
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Old 02-22-2010, 04:27 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Cool Story, Bro!!

ill be sure to put you on ignore if you do but have fun with it, hope it relieves stress and makes you believe in fairytales. Ask some Big Nog fans for fun facts... ill help you. Say things like

"Mirs boxing is world class"

"Mir has the best BJJ in the HW Division"

"Cain has never faced anybody like Mir"

"Cain is gonna get tapped as soon it as hits the ground"

"Cain has pillow hands and cant hurt Mir"

Just a few for you, if you really run out PM me but as i said you may be on ignore by then

No need. Mir did to Nog precisely what Cain did, only in sexier fashion.

The day will come. And I will become what people now wrongfully see you as. I am the true foreseer!
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Old 02-22-2010, 04:28 PM   #63 (permalink)
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None in the UFC Heavyweight division has as impressive record as Fedor,
All of Fedor opponents have been destroyed in more impressive fashion by UFC HW's. Babalu, Mirko, Nog, Coleman, Randelmann, you name them. Common opponents show Fedor would suffer the same fate as the rest of the Pride HW's. Fedor was king of a time when HW's weren't that strong and frankly weren't true HW's. I would take 5 UFC HW's against Fedor. He's ducking competition. He should retire or take on the best league. Frankly, I think he should retire. Even if he loses in the UFC, the excuses of age will abound, just like they did with Nog and Cop.
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Old 02-22-2010, 04:29 PM   #64 (permalink)
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i know Fedor is better then i give him credit for but thats mostly to piss "fedor is god" ppl off. he is clearly the best of all time. he moves like a cat and is good or great at every area of MMA.

i still think he can be beaten and Cain matches up aswell as anybody. he isnt coming in with a size gameplan either, he has skills in every area and is lightening fast as Fedor himself.


i would pay $500 to see this fight.

Here is something i wanna hit you in the head with tho, Cain is better now then Prime Nog, Prime Mirko and Prime Coleman so w.e win from the past u wanna bring up, like the rock would say IT DOESNT MATTER
You know what, he may be, I need to see a few more fights from him. I really want to see him face JDS or Mirko next. Fedor is cool because he is so stoic before fights, same for Mousasi and then he just unleashes lethal weaponry.
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Old 02-22-2010, 04:30 PM   #65 (permalink)
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No need. Mir did to Nog precisely what Cain did, only in sexier fashion.

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lol who sees me as a forseer?? funny stuff either way

i didnt realize a 2nd round KO was sexier then a 1st round KO. TY for setting me straight. I thought the quicker you finish it, the better.

Unlike Mir, Cain didnt fear Nog on the ground, you could tell, instead of knocking him down and cowering away, waiting for a standup, he easily went by his guard and landed probably 4 of the quickest GnP punches ive seen in along, long time to a legend known for his recovery time.

Mir was scared. Cain was not. Pre fight and during the fight. Frontrunner from the get go.
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Old 02-22-2010, 04:31 PM   #66 (permalink)
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Lol man, if your not going to provide facts for your claims just shut it.
Facts and Fedor fans (some anyway, as I think even the rational Fedor fans will admit) don't mix well.
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Sambo, there are actually fighters that think Cain is the best HW out there, right now. Its not just me being crazy. The big difference is Cain is willing to go out and fight who ppl consider the top guys RIGHT NOW to prove he is the top guy RIGHT NOW.

Hypothetical situation. Fedor fights 2x a year as usual, he beats Werdum and Overeem and is now the SF HW Champion. In the same time frame, Cain beats JDS, Lesnar, Mir and Carwin (4 fights a year is very possible for Cain, altho its more likely 3, but this is hypothetical lets use 4 to make it more interesting). Would Cain then be ranked above Fedor?? Could we even dare to dream it without being excommunicated from MMA??
Don't worry when Cain is 30-0 he also will fight 2 times a year, it's even logical for the bussiness and if you dont know fighter not always decide when or who to fight.

He has to proove himself while he is young and hungry, so no big science why up and coming fighter fights a lot.
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Old 02-22-2010, 04:32 PM   #68 (permalink)
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lol who sees me as a forseer?? funny stuff either way

i didnt realize a 2nd round KO was sexier then a 1st round KO. TY for setting me straight. I thought the quicker you finish it, the better.

Unlike Mir, Cain didnt fear Nog on the ground, you could tell, instead of knocking him down and cowering away, waiting for a standup, he easily went by his guard and landed probably 4 of the quickest GnP punches ive seen in along, long time to a legend known for his recovery time.

Mir was scared. Cain was not. Pre fight and during the fight. Frontrunner from the get go.

That I'll give Cain, he would not be intimidated by Fedor. Right now I see the UFC HWs as:

#1) Lesnar
#2) Cain
#3) JDS
#4) Mir
#5) Nog
#6) Carwin
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Old 02-22-2010, 04:33 PM   #69 (permalink)
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Facts and Fedor fans (some anyway, as I think even the rational Fedor fans will admit) don't mix well.
Provide one and we'll see...or are you still on the Grim will beat him bandwagon? Let me guess you also think Werdum will submit him and then Kenny Florian will KO him because Florian is in the UFC?
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Old 02-22-2010, 04:37 PM   #70 (permalink)
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Provide one and we'll see...or are you still on the Grim will beat him bandwagon? Let me guess you also think Werdum will submit him and then Kenny Florian will KO him because Florian is in the UFC?
Yep! I think Dakota totally destroyed you in that debate.

So, SR, when I listed several UFC fighters I thought Fedor would beat, did that not sink in at all?

Are you really this into Fedor? Man! Dude you are seriously unhinged. Unstable.
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