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View Poll Results: Who would win?
Velasquez via KO/TKO 24 11.48%
Velasquez via submission 0 0%
Velasquez via decision 11 5.26%
Emelianenko via KO/TKO 112 53.59%
Emelianenko via submission 55 26.32%
Emelianenko via decision 7 3.35%
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. i havent seen Fedor fight anybody as fast as himself before, i think it is by far the most interesting matchup in the division for Fedor.
Arlovski is pretty fast and explosive and he was ranked as #2 at the moment when Fedor fought him last year and as we could see explosiveness wasn't much of a factor there.

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Man you go to far to state that someone who has a 8-0 record vs a proven legend with what 32-1. Tell me Cain fights a prime Big Nog x 2 (ex-Pride/UFC champ), CC (Pride Champ), Arlovski (ex-champ), Tim Sylvia (ex-champ) Brett Rogers, Semmy Schilt, Arona, Sobral and beats all of em resoundingly then maybe. Of course add in the in between fights of mediocre to tomato cans which he stills whips. In this day and age anybody has a punchers chance. Maybe we'll talk.

Threads like these are a bit over the top. If it's meant to create buzz sure you got it, but it should be "Can Cain take Fedor."
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Man you go to far to state that someone who has a 8-0 record vs a proven legend with what 32-1. Tell me Cain fights a prime Big Nog x 2 (ex-Pride/UFC champ), CC (Pride Champ), Arlovski (ex-champ), Tim Sylvia (ex-champ) Brett Rogers, Semmy Schilt, Arona, Sobral and beats all of em resoundingly then maybe. Of course add in the in between fights of mediocre to tomato cans which he stills whips. In this day and age anybody has a punchers chance. Maybe we'll talk.
haha. Usually, people look at the list of latest victims. Everything that was more than 3 years ago doesn't really matter - chin, power, age, speed are never the same after that much time. I even go as far as to say that perhaps the punch that rocked Fedor (from Fujita) may very well knock him out nowadays.

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I'd go for Fedor, but I'd agree Cain has a great shot, better than most actually.
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Right, but it's judging by their last performances in the last 4-5 fights: who showed more heart, who displayed better BJJ & Kickboxing skills, whose chin is better and who has more power and eventually who is a better overall fighter.
I would definitely give the More Heart and better chin to Fedor, the number of times that guy as been hurt and come back to win is his ultimate defining feature that has made him the legend that he is, this even shown in his last fight against Rogers.

I would not discount Cains chances of beating him he does look stronger and faster which you can't ignore so you have to give him that edge.

As for is both his ground game and stand up better than Fedors, that is a brave statement that has yet to be proven, in many ways the fact Cain is very good standing as well as on the ground makes him very similar to Fador, would not like to be the person to call that statement right or wrong, would be a really interesting fight though which just makes me wish even more that Fedor was in the UFC
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There's a lot of hype for em, but for him to be on the same pedestal he'd have to beat Mir, GG, Carwin, JDS, and Brock then remain undefeated til he reaches 30 fights. He hasn't been put to the test yet against a true KO finisher.

In fact I'd like to see Cain vs Brett Rogers for kicks.
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in his last fight against Rogers.
Excellent fight. The only major flaw in Fedor's game is that he bleeds very often, that jab from Rogers made a serious damage. I'm glad he could come back, but still.

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To say Cain would win in simply stupid. Maybe in 5 years when Cain has more experience and Fedor is a grandpa.

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To say Cain would win in simply stupid. Maybe in 5 years when Cain has more experience and Fedor is a grandpa.
no, to state a concenus top 5 HW has no shot whatsoever is beyond stupid. 5 more years?? he is top 5 right now, is this what Fedor fans do... act like idiots. If only they had half the class and respect that Fedor himself has we would have interesting conversations. To dismiss any top 5 as having no chance means you really know little to nothing about any combat sport.

Alot of you are stupid ridiculous, you dont need to copy Fedors exact accomplishments to beat him. you just need to be better then him on one single night. Get a grip on reality plz.
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The Cain hype is getting a bit out of hand. Fedor by submission.
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