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View Poll Results: Who would win?
Velasquez via KO/TKO 24 11.48%
Velasquez via submission 0 0%
Velasquez via decision 11 5.26%
Emelianenko via KO/TKO 112 53.59%
Emelianenko via submission 55 26.32%
Emelianenko via decision 7 3.35%
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Cain has as good of a chance at beating Fedor as anyone else.

The fact is, it's been 10 years, and over this course there have been countless "X guy can beat/is ready to fight Fedor", and it always ends the same way.

That's not to say these threads are old, Fedor is just a man and can be beaten, just very unlikely.

I would see Fedor KO/TKO cain in the first or second, as I believe Fedor will overwhelm him as quickly as possible to avoid the clinch with a wrestler in a cage (he would do this with Randy, Brock, and Carwin as well). I believe he'd put the pressure on and use that power and speed of his to drop and put Cain away. I'd see Fedor simply working faster, harder, and trying to finish the fight earlier, because of the style matchup, and I believe he would, indeed, finish it early (first or second, as stated).

Also, yes, I know Cain's striking is improving, but it's not on Fedor's level, it isn't.
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no, to state a concenus top 5 HW has no shot whatsoever is beyond stupid. 5 more years?? he is top 5 right now, is this what Fedor fans do... act like idiots. If only they had half the class and respect that Fedor himself has we would have interesting conversations. To dismiss any top 5 as having no chance means you really know little to nothing about any combat sport.

Alot of you are stupid ridiculous, you dont need to copy Fedors exact accomplishments to beat him. you just need to be better then him on one single night. Get a grip on reality plz.
Your saying how Fedor fans are bad? Well first off I am a Cain fan. (Check my profile)

Its just reality, and Fedor fans say stupid things? You have posted 7006940 times about how godly Cain is and its getting a little out of hand now, seriously.

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Alot of you are stupid ridiculous, you dont need to copy Fedors exact accomplishments to beat him. you just need to be better then him on one single night. Get a grip on reality plz.
true, and if you have some luck it's even better. Fedor that fought Mark Hunt was pretty beatable, and even Hunt had Fedor in some bad spots, if his BJJ was better, he could've submitted Emelianenko.

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Cain has as good of a chance at beating Fedor as anyone else.

The fact is, it's been 10 years, and over this course there have been countless "X guy can beat/is ready to fight Fedor", and it always ends the same way.

That's not to say these threads are old, Fedor is just a man and can be beaten, just very unlikely.

I would see Fedor KO/TKO cain in the first or second, as I believe Fedor will overwhelm him as quickly as possible to avoid the clinch with a wrestler in a cage (he would do this with Randy, Brock, and Carwin as well). I believe he'd put the pressure on and use that power and speed of his to drop and put Cain away. I'd see Fedor simply working faster, harder, and trying to finish the fight earlier, because of the style matchup, and I believe he would, indeed, finish it early (first or second, as stated).

Also, yes, I know Cain's striking is improving, but it's not on Fedor's level, it isn't.
good post, reasonable thinking. u should give a real fedor fan 101 course around here. instead of just saying "fedorz is godz" and other nonsense you states reasons you think he would win.

It is VERY REASONABLE when a up and coming undefeated prospect destroys the 2nd greatest HW of all time.... to ask.... could he beat the best of all time?? Anyone that doesnt think so is either a Cain hater, a fedor is god delusional hugger or just a moron, sorry to say.
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Personally, I'd like for Cain to face JDS before I really know where he's at. I said he had pillow hands before the Nog fight (yes, I know 7 of his fights are by stoppage), but I never saw the KO power. Nog has a granite chin and I will not underestimate Cain anymore.

With that said, I need to see him against a "young" contender in someone like JDS who has 3 wins in his UFC career by KO or TKO with a dominant performance against CC and an above average ground game, though we haven't seen much of it.

Right now, I would say Fedor would take it via KO/TKO.

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Cain can definately defeat Fedor, I just think Fedor has a greater chance of beating Cain then the opposite.
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one thing u gotta love about Cain, like Fedor, he seems oblivious to hype and to pressure. he is just a humble dude that goes out there because he loves to compete.

Intermission you seriously need to think about the nonsense u are saying. Cain should wait 5 years?? He is top 5 right now, if he is 5 years away then nobody has the "right" to challenge fedor?? you arent even a fan of the sport with this talk, just a fan of Fedor and its ridiculous.

I WANT CAIN TO FIGHT EVERYBODY. Including Fedor. You guys seem to want Fedor to fight a mythical person who doesnt exist because apparently nobody is good enough.

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because he loves to compete.
Oh you mean like every other MMArtist?

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Fedor fights because he needs to put food on his family's table, and anyone who gets in his way of that (his competition) must be terminated.
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Fedor fights because he needs to put food on his family's table, and anyone who gets in his way of that (his competition) must be terminated.
I think at this point of his life, he doesn't really need MMA as a major source of income. So what motivates him?

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