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Old 03-23-2010, 12:49 AM   #21 (permalink)
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this crap has been bugging me all week ><
Me too, not to mention that is anyone that wasn't aware looked up Carwins record out of curiosity, it would just make Rogan look like he didn't know what he was talking about. It could have been an honest mistake though. He could have meant that Carwin has finished all of his fights.
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Old 03-23-2010, 01:23 AM   #22 (permalink)
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both Joe and Shane are well aware that the UFC is promoting Carwin in this manner and both are in on it.

Carwin should be especially ashamed because he talks all this "ppls champ" kissing babies and signing autographs....

then he goes out on national TV and lies thru this teeth to help a company make a buck.

lame.

if he didnt wanna call the UFC out on it, fine. but dont stand there answering the question like u are validing what Joe said as truth.
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Old 03-23-2010, 01:25 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Me too, not to mention that is anyone that wasn't aware looked up Carwins record out of curiosity, it would just make Rogan look like he didn't know what he was talking about. It could have been an honest mistake though. He could have meant that Carwin has finished all of his fights.
Finished them all in the first too. His record is awesome, even if it's not 11 knockouts. It was probably a mistake by Rogan, and Carwin didn't want to be a dick and call him out on television.
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Old 03-23-2010, 01:29 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Finished them all in the first too. His record is awesome, even if it's not 11 knockouts. It was probably a mistake by Rogan, and Carwin didn't want to be a dick and call him out on television.
no, watch countdown, they also said Carwin was 11-0 with 11KOs all in the 1st round.

this is how the UFC has decided to promote him.

with lies.
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Old 03-23-2010, 01:36 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Doesnt really bother me... It should bother Carwin though... Also it might be just me but when u market someone like that especially when its with lies i feel they know that you arnt going to be a big name for a long time and are just relevant for now.
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Old 03-23-2010, 01:44 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Doesnt really bother me... It should bother Carwin though... Also it might be just be but when u market someone like that especially with a lies i feel they know that you arnt going to be a big name for a long time and are just relevant for now.
i think the funniest part is the UFC is acknowledging the low MMA IQ of most of its fanbase and just appeasing them.

Instead of educating them and letting them know, yes, Carwin is a BEAST who has massive KO power BUT he also has skill on the ground and he has subbed FIVE ppl.

making him way more dangerous.

but the UFC is taking the dumbed down way. I guess its easier.

see how uneasy Carwin looked when Rogan mentioned it about 3x??? lol i think even Rogan noticed it cuz it looked like Carwin was about to say something and Joe went right into the Gonzaga KO.....

funniest part was Carwin, the ppls champ, the good guy of all good guys just standing there perperuating a lie for $.

"that's knockout power for ya!!!"

indeed shane, it is.
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Old 03-23-2010, 01:50 AM   #27 (permalink)
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i think the funniest part is the UFC is acknowledging the low MMA IQ of most of its fanbase and just appeasing them.

Instead of educating them and letting them know, yes, Carwin is a BEAST who has massive KO power BUT he also has skill on the ground and he has subbed FIVE ppl.

making him way more dangerous.

but the UFC is taking the dumbed down way. I guess its easier.

see how uneasy Carwin looked when Rogan mentioned it about 3x??? lol i think even Rogan noticed it cuz it looked like Carwin was about to say something and Joe went right into the Gonzaga KO.....

funniest part was Carwin, the ppls champ, the good guy of all good guys just standing there perperuating a lie for $.

"that's knockout power for ya!!!"

indeed shane, it is.

Think about the Awkward position Carwin is put in though. I don't blame him for not saying anything since at the end of the day the UFC is signing his paychecks. I just hope that someone mentions this in an interview and he does the right thing and say that's false i just went along with it cuz i work for them.
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Think about the Awkward position Carwin is put in though. I don't blame him for not saying anything since at the end of the day the UFC is signing his paychecks. I just hope that someone mentions this in an interview and he does the right thing and say that's false i just went along with it cuz i work for them.
i dont know where morals have gone in this society.

it is deemed ok to lie if it is for $ or your job??

im not saying this is untrue. im self employed basically my entire life so i really dont know??

if that's true, that sucks.

hypothetically if Shane had quickly said "actually joe, i stopped all 11 but i submitted 5 of them and im comfortable either KOing or subbing guys", the UFC would have been mad??

i dunno.
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i dont know where morals have gone in this society.

it is deemed ok to lie if it is for $ or your job??

im not saying this is untrue. im self employed basically my entire life so i really dont know??

if that's true, that sucks.

hypothetically if Shane had quickly said "actually joe, i stopped all 11 but i submitted 5 of them and im comfortable either KOing or subbing guys", the UFC would have been mad??

i dunno.
Well if it was a bigger lie then it is then i say no... but its basically a white lie. No one is going to get hurt by this and for all we know if Carwin said something then Dana might have been really pissed. I personally haven't heard Carwin say that he knocked 11 guys out yet. Im sure calling the UFC out on this would cause him more problems then UFC lying about his record is causing.

Everyone tells a fib now and then even though morally its probably not right.

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If you have a family you have to feed then lying for the sake of providing for them can be a very understandable thing. In this life your probably never going to find a person that is 100% righteous just because this world isnt made to work that way as it is right now.
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i dont know where morals have gone in this society.

it is deemed ok to lie if it is for $ or your job??

im not saying this is untrue. im self employed basically my entire life so i really dont know??

if that's true, that sucks.

hypothetically if Shane had quickly said "actually joe, i stopped all 11 but i submitted 5 of them and im comfortable either KOing or subbing guys", the UFC would have been mad??

i dunno.
Lol that's a bit dramatic considering the lack of severity of this issue.

That said though; somebody's gotta call Dana out on this shit. I'm sure other MMA forums are buzzing about the same thing, I want a public apology!
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