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post #11 of 24 (permalink) Old 01-11-2007, 04:57 PM
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Wilson Gouveia was picking apart Jardine in that first round of their fight and he is bjj guy. Chuck would kill Jardine, Jardine is a can.




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if jardine fought chuck he would be in for a serious ass whipping, jardine's standup is ok but he's chuck's perfect opponent, he'd stand with chuck and get his head knocked off. no disrespect to jardine but he's a b leval fighter and just cos he beat griffin doesn't mean he deserves a shot at chuck. i say let jardine fight bisping and watch bisping take jardine apart by ko in the 1st or 2nd.

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if jardine fought chuck he would be in for a serious ass whipping, jardine's standup is ok but he's chuck's perfect opponent, he'd stand with chuck and get his head knocked off. no disrespect to jardine but he's a b leval fighter and just cos he beat griffin doesn't mean he deserves a shot at chuck. i say let jardine fight bisping and watch bisping take jardine apart by ko in the 1st or 2nd.
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Let me tell you, it is FUUUUN to play devils advocate for Jardine in this (not really) debate. I like Jardine because he trains with Diego and Rashad. He also beat Forrest Griffin. I think it is a great idea to have him fight Bisping next. I only started this thread with Jardine because there is no way Bisping is going to get a title shot in 07. I think Rashad and Bisping are both better then Jardine. But hey, Jardine impressed me with his last fight. Jardine is a B level fighter? Yeah but he looked different in his last fight and if he pulls off something similar in his next fight, I might change my mind.

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Isn't it true that an A level fighter might have been a B at one time or another? They're not all born that way. A few more fights and who knows.
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Easy win for chuck.

Jardine couldn't even finish off Stephan Bonnar, and he beat Griffen because for some reason Griffen thought his chin was better than it was (griffen is a total f'ing idiot). Jardine is very slow, but he can take a punch or two, chuck will drop him in the first, and finish him whenever he wants to.

That said, Jardine seems like a cool dude, and hopefully he gets a good payday if they do fight.
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jardine is a horible matchup for the iceman, notice the way he comes forward with sloppy combinations
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I dont think Jardine gets enough credit...

I think Chuck would beat Jardine unless Jardine was lucky and landed several devastating leg kicks very early in the fight. (That would mess up Chucks mobility and base for throwing punches)

I do think though that Jardine could take Bisping. That would be an awesome fight.

I actually enjoy watching Jardine fight alot.

He was ROBBED against Bonnar and beat the living shit out of Forest.
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[QUOTE=randyspankstito]and he beat Griffen because for some reason Griffen thought his chin was better than it was (griffen is a total f'ing idiot). Jardine is very slow, QUOTE]

I couldn't disagree more. Griffin did not lose that fight because he beat himself. Watch the fight again sometime and you will see that Forrest was dominated. Jardine went out there and leg kicked Forrest knee. You can actually see the moment Jardine realizes that Forrest can't move. Forrest took the center of the Octagon and let Jardine circle him. Jardine backed up and when Forrest didn't mount an offense you can see the moment of realization. Jardine then rushed in wildly and ended it.

This is a new Jardine. He was much quicker, more aggressive and had a totally revamped offense. I think training with Rashad and Diego have everything to do with that. I can't wait to see his next fight to see if the Forrest fight was just a fluke.

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I think Jardine may do decent against Liddell, but still lose. But when does he get a title shot? What happens if guys like him, Rampage, Bisbing and Griffin fight guys like Sobral and Ortiz and lose? (Not saying Sobral or Ortiz are better than any of the above, but seem as if they may play gatekeeper for Liddell?) As for Rampage, I don't know who he fights to get his shot. Liddell might be waiting a while with all of the potential match-ups...but who knows.
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