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Old 01-12-2007, 11:08 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Tito and Wand are brothers from different mothers they act identicle talk a bunch of smack is all they do
Dude, Tito and Wand are nothing alike in any aspect. Not in their personal lives , not in their training routines, not in the way they talk about their opponents, not in the way they fight, not in the way they react to wins and losses, not in the way they carry themselves.
Thanks for that comment by the way, if you watched all of Chucks fights in Pride (and I have a feeling you didnt), you would know that I made a legitimate point in my previous post. I m not talking trash or saying Chuck is a 'bad' fighter, I m stating the facts. Not about Pride being better or UFC sucking, I m an MMA fan; but about the fact that wrestlers and GnP fighters are much better suited for Chucks fighting style.
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Old 01-12-2007, 11:10 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Assuming that Chuck doesn't retire before hand. I can imagine Crop Cop wanting to dominate the heavyweight division for a long time before going LHW.
Crocop can fight at both weights simultaneously without much adjustment. His walking around weight is a mere 12 hours of bicycle in the sauna away from making 205.
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Old 01-12-2007, 11:16 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Chuck is going to have a fight in between him and Rampage. He'll have to. They're going to give Rampage 2 can fights minimum to hype him up before he fights Chuck. The first fight is in Feb, the second one would be what, April at the ABSOLUTE earliest? Which means Chuck Vs. Rampage won't be til maybe UFC 70 or so. Chuck's gonna have to fight someone in the meantime. And they'll probably give him stupid Jardine or Evans.
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Old 01-12-2007, 11:24 AM   #24 (permalink)
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I just wanted to add another thing with regard to Chuck's visit to Pride. He had a hard time in the tourney. Overeem was outstriking him and so was Mezger. Then they got caught. Props to chuck for bouncing back, but it s a different selection of fighters out there. Guys that can strike and throw knees from the clinch (tnx organik) area a horrible matchup for him. He d much rather know he is the better striker and defend the takedowns. Rampage came to the UFC and he might win or lose, I m not saying anything. Although, if they UFC starts bringing in more and more strikers to the 205 division, Chuck will eventually lose.
As far as the stupid ass comment about Tito beating Wand - go home.
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those tito comments really piss me off too, but would u said i couldnt agree more
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Old 01-12-2007, 11:33 AM   #25 (permalink)
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[quote=herton17]I m not talking trash or saying Chuck is a 'bad' fighter, I m stating the facts.QUOTE]

Purely for the record, "stating the facts" is intrinsically hypocritical if you ask me.

That said, I expect Chuck will go down when the UFC acquires some better talent in his division.

What about Rashad Evans? Dude gets no credit, but he's had some impresive performances.
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Old 01-12-2007, 11:40 AM   #26 (permalink)
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I m not talking trash or saying Chuck is a 'bad' fighter, I m stating the facts.QUOTE]

Purely for the record, "stating the facts" is intrinsically hypocritical if you ask me.

That said, I expect Chuck will go down when the UFC acquires some better talent in his division.

What about Rashad Evans? Dude gets no credit, but he's had some impresive performances.
I was merely 'stating the fact' that Chuck had a hard time striking with Overeem and Mezger. Go ahead and ask him, he'll tell you the same thing. I was not at the least being subjective, and therefore cannot be hypocritical. The word 'intrinsically' is therefore redundant. Anything else?
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Old 01-12-2007, 11:45 AM   #27 (permalink)
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But he did get be wand isn't all that any ways I watched alot of his fights he is just Tito's pride counter part he's good at puttin on a show hes a good against alot of fighters but when it hiots the cream of the "crop" it always ends the same just like Tito
Wand & Tito?!?! pfff go back to sleep.

Correct me if I'm wrong here (which I might be cause I'm no expert on PRIDE) but when Wanderlei's lost it's been in open weight class fights to guy's that fight in the HW division except from the loss to Ricardo Arona (which he avenged in the next fight). Other than the loss to Arona, there was 1KO & 1 draw to Crocop & 1 decision loss to Mark Hunt (open weights) & a No Contest kick in the sweets from Gilbert Yvel. Before that was to Tito 6 years ago fir fuxake with 20, yes 20 wins from then till now.

Please, Tito has been trying to claw his way back to the top for the past 3 and a half years now, failing miserably with suspect decisions against the likes of Forrest Griffin and pathetic rematches with has-beens.

Back to the topic though, I think they'll give him Jardine. He's the one Dana will know the fans will want after knocking Forrest back to playschool.
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Old 01-12-2007, 11:55 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Wand & Tito?!?! pfff go back to sleep.

Correct me if I'm wrong here (which I might be cause I'm no expert on PRIDE) but when Wanderlei's lost it's been in open weight class fights to guy's that fight in the HW division except from the loss to Ricardo Arona (which he avenged in the next fight). Other than the loss to Arona, there was 1KO & 1 draw to Crocop & 1 decision loss to Mark Hunt (open weights) & a No Contest kick in the sweets from Gilbert Yvel. Before that was to Tito 6 years ago fir fuxake with 20, yes 20 wins from then till now.

Please, Tito has been trying to claw his way back to the top for the past 3 and a half years now, failing miserably with suspect decisions against the likes of Forrest Griffin and pathetic rematches with has-beens.

Back to the topic though, I think they'll give him Jardine. He's the one Dana will know the fans will want after knocking Forrest back to playschool.
nicely put man, do ya think jardine could beat chuck i dont with chuck long arms and the way jardines punchies its weird in a way but yes sometimes veffective,chuck i think would ko him.
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Wow, so Chuck's a has been now huh? Nice.

Chuck could beat Wandy & Cyborg, Shogun not so much. Rampage poses a problem for Chuck because he is so freakishly strong and he is very tough. Chuck would definitely catch Cyborg after taking some damage, and I think at this point he is a good matchup for Wanderlei, but I think Shogun is too quick & Rampage is very strong.....thus both would cause him a lot of problems.

And please stop with the Jardine nuthugging, you guys sound like the Nate Quarry nuthuggers before his fight with Rich Franklin. It's retarded. Chuck would KHTFO about 30 seconds into his sloppy standup.
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Rampage, Axe Murder or Shogun. He could not beat all three in a row. He would be able to beat one of the three, long shot to beat 2 of the three, never all three.

Chuck is in a grove is part of his good run. But he has been fighting vary similar fighters all the time, ground guys, lets see him fight the three I provided and see how he does. (Rampage is a ground guy but very very tough)

I think Axe Murder or Shogun would put Chuck to sleep.

So its partly Chuck is on a roll and partly its the fighters that have been put up against him (not saying they were bad fighters just all the same type). Part of what defines a true Champion or Legend is how adaptable he is...Chuck keeps fighting the same thing over and over.

Rampage, Axe Murder or Shogun would end that run. (like I said above Chuck might be able to beat one of them, long long shot to beat two and never would beat all three).
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