I had Machida winning 1,2,3....funny go watch the post fight presser for that card, listen to Rua tell u the rds he though Lyoto won, and Dana tell you the rs he thought Lyoto won....and between the 2 men, Dana an Rua they have Lyoto winning 1,2,3.....
I have never seen Dana say he thought Machida won, everything I seen he said he had it 3-2 Shogun. Don't know about Shogun the most I can remember is after the fight him saying his corner telling him he had won the fight. I gave Machida 2 and 3, Shogun 1,4 and 5 for the record. Though I honestly think 1 and 2 could have gone either way depending on what your criteria for scoring is.
This is the part I dont get cuz the damage to Lyoto's legs came from the looping Thai kicks that could never be possible from the clinch.....so I'm just kinda confused as to what you even mean, he was kneeing Lyoto from the clinch but they both were and Lyoto was landing more counter strikes to the head of Rua....not that Rogan noticed....Machida switches from south paw to traditional all the time he does it multiple times in rounds...
Shogun took Machida's lead leg with kicks, but I remember Shogun attacking Lyoto's thighs in the clinch, they both were landing in the clinch, I thought Shogun was causing more damage in the clinch though. Rogan was kind of annoying in that fight, he didn't see a single Machida counter, he was obsessive over Rua throwing roundhouses which did land, but they really only look cool. He did cause some damage with them though, I just think it wasn't as much as some people seem to think, usually if a strike makes a sound it was basically a slap and didn't cause a lot of damage. The strikes that cause damage give off more of a thud. But really I don't think either guy was really damaged in that fight, Shogun did rough up Lyoto's lead leg quite a bit, but that was about it. other then that they both looked a little hesitant to reallu engage one another. The only time either moved forward was when Machida pushed Shogun to the cage for that flurry at the end of three and got countered.
There are many different leg defenses available to Machida for these leg kicks, his Father was quoted as saying these would be the first area's to work on along with Anderson throwing a shit load of Thai kicks as to mimic Rua....you may see a slight adjustment in Machida's stance but i think you mainly will see alot more movement attacking in then getting out.....
Here's the thing, Anderson may be one of the greatest fighters ever, but he still doesn't fight like Shogun. He can throw Thai kicks all day but it's not going to look like Shogun. Machida can only dance in and out if he doesn't get his legs beat all to hell again. Shogun stopped Machida from doing that, Lyoto didn't just not do it. Shogun forced Machida to change his stance and he couldn't move as effectively once he went orthodox.
Maybe for like Bruce Lee but not in Shotokan karate, or Machida Karate the main element is to not get hit, I'm not sure why they would train combo's if they expected to go out there nd with one shot win the fight.....again, your not going to see Machida do badly in the clinch he worked Muay Thai for a long time and has Sumo, again....when have you seen him get taken down???
I don't even pretend to know a damn thing about Machida Karate, haha, so you've got me there. I don't know that anyone has taken him down, nor do I see this fight going to the ground. I see a more aggressive standing fight, just like the first time. But I don't know that I've seen him taken down, though I think a lot of that has to do with his speed as much as his TDD. I don't know that Machida will do badly in the clinch, I just think Shogun is much better and Lyoto would do best to avoid the clinch. Why give up your speed and allow Shogun to grab you?
It's going to be an interesting fight to say the least, and honestly don't really care who wins as long as the score cards don't get read at the end. Both guys are way to good to have three ringside judges decide who is better.