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post #1 of 35 (permalink) Old 04-09-2010, 01:33 PM Thread Starter
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Dana White objecting to GSP @ MW. Why?

Something's been bugging me for a while and I'd like to get your opinion. Dana White has always let BJ Penn fight at 170 whenever he wanted. In fact, lately Dana has even said that he would consider the LW division "cleaned out" if BJ beats Edgar (it was in that interview in Abu Dahbi that was posted recently). Dana would fully support BJ vacating the LW title and moving up to WW permanently.

Dana has also showed that he's willing to let Anderson Silva fight anybody at any weight. He even said that if Anderson could make the cut to 170, he'd "consider" a Silva/GSP fight. However, whenever anyone asks him about GSP moving up to 185, Dana White is always emphatic that he is against that move and I don't understand why given his willingness to let Penn and Silva do pretty much what they want. You wouldn't have to set up Silva/GSP right away. You could give GSP a fight or two against mid-tier MWs to test the waters first. Whenever champions step up in weight class to test themselves it always draws huge buzz so why limit your money-making options?

Why does Dana let Penn and Silva routinely risk their legacies by testing themselves outside their weight classes yet Dana seems to loathe the idea of GSP doing the same? Let me be clear, I'm not questioning GSP's desire to move up; I'm questioning Dana White's thinking as a promoter and a business man. Thoughts?
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I think the main reason for that is, that GSP is such a huge draw and sells a lot of PPV's. If he would move up and lose to Silva or any other MW, Dana would lose many many buy's for GSP as a WW fighter in the future.

Silva and Penn aren't that big of a draws for the UFC then GSP. I guess that's the main reason..
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Not sure about that, Penn has always been a huge draw and GSP is losing a lot of fans by the fight.

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Penn sells a lot too, that's true! But still not as much as GSP. And I believe Penn would even sell more as a WW again, so Dana doesn't hold him back at all.

Same with Silva! He sells more when he moves in weight I believe..
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Dana thinks GSP will get smashed at 185.


So do i.
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So do I. GSP is too small.
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I think the main reason for that is, that GSP is such a huge draw and sells a lot of PPV's. If he would move up and lose to Silva or any other MW, Dana would lose many many buy's for GSP as a WW fighter in the future.

Silva and Penn aren't that big of a draws for the UFC then GSP. I guess that's the main reason..
I'm not disagreeing but it's hard to compare the fighter's drawing power because GSP has been co-main-eventing with the HW title his last 2 appearances. Likewise with Anderson Silva, his last 2 fights he's been the co-main event with BJ Penn. That brings me to another question I just thought of: Why are the 2 fighters that Dana considers to the best P4P in the world CO-main-eventing so much recently? Wouldn't it be smarter business to spread out these main event calibre fights over more shows?
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I think the main reason for Dana's objections is that he doesn't consider GSP a MW. I heard him on many occasions talking about how GSP isn't even a big WW. And, if you compare him to Alves, Rumble, even Hardy...he is right. Even though, GSP is very lean and has almost no fat on him.
And please take this in consideration. Almost all the fighters at MW are bigger than him, they are cutting from well over 200 lbs (210 even). I am absolutely confident GSP would dominate almost everyone at MW, because of his insane wrestling.
Another reason is, GSP still has some good fights at WW, some rematches that could be interesting: Fitch, Alves, Kos.
And i think Dana is still dreaming about GSP-Penn 3.

But, in the end, maybe Dana has some secret plans. (Jake Shields?!?!)

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I'm not disagreeing but it's hard to compare the fighter's drawing power because GSP has been co-main-eventing with the HW title his last 2 appearances. Likewise with Anderson Silva, his last 2 fights he's been the co-main event with BJ Penn. That brings me to another question I just thought of: Why are the 2 fighters that Dana considers to the best P4P in the world CO-main-eventing so much recently? Wouldn't it be smarter business to spread out these main event calibre fights over more shows?
That's true! It's hard to actually compare the drawing numbers to PPV buys and to the fighters in general. I think Mir was also a huge draw for 111 for example.

And I think the reason why he put's Anderson and BJ on the same card, is that he wants one/two big PPV buy's like 2 times in a year, same for GSP and the HW's. Many because bigger numbers like UFC 100 is better buesniss for him then to have GSP or Penn sell alone 400k without a good card or Co.Main Event.



yes but the thing with the frame stands for BJ as well limba!
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I don't believe it. GSP isn't too small and his wrestling technique is still the best. He would be a top5 MW the same as Silva is a top fight LHW.
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